Bao wrote:wayne hansen wrote:When Peng meets Peng one should borrow and redirect
Folding is the answer
The girl does that and he tells her she is wrong and gets her to play his game.
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If it works it should work no matter what the opponent does
Exactly. Agree 100% w your post Wayne.
I do not but in order to talk about why, one has to agree on some common concepts some of the ones he outlined other wise as now people tend to talk of tactics vs whats going on and why...I understand the point that you made WW and there sure is a good lesson to be learned here. However, I was not particularly fond of the clip. I thought he just tried to come up with excuses.
He outlined why and what was happening how is this an excusePeng should be used with no resistance and with as little contact as possible. Teachers tend to teach their students just the opposite of what they should learn. They get their students to lock up their structure to bounce them away.
He would also agree and said as much. Again until some agreement is made as to how and what pung / peng is its point less to talk about why something happens or not.Then they don't care if they develop bad habits that keep them from doing real progress. This kind of hypocrisy is a very common thing amongst teachers who just wants to be the center of their own show, or teachers who are insecure and don't want their students to reach any kind of high level.
Which knowing this teacher it's really not the case. Not defending him or the clip, he addressed almost all or most of the points brought out here as to why, how and when...and also the differences between relative skill of himself and the student.
if some one asked me what peng jin is, I would answer "expanding force" which is spherical in nature, can be expressed
at any point providing one understands and knows how.
He illustrated the difference between some one who had peng jin and some one who did not know how to express it. It was never about "playing his game" as some have alluded to...kinda a misguided observation for a "demo"
By its nature a "demo" is defined within a context otherwise its no longer a demo..
In that case the girl had no idea from which to understand what he was asking her to do for the demo. Almost anyone can be bounced out just depends on ones understanding of what peng jin is, how its expressed. Everyone has an expanding force that maintains their shape at sea level.
So far most have focused on what they think the teacher is doing, not really what he's doing nor has said which is why I started this with
"Before we talk about the clip he mentioned some concepts giving his viewpoints on them
which I agree with I would like to see if we agree on them.
Pung jin, what is it, how is it expressed in the body,
rooting , what is it, how is it expressed in the body.
Intention , what is it, how is it expressed what is used for. "
Really don't don't see much point in going on..
happy new yr to all, happy soon to be yr of the "dog"