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Michael wrote: I assume Xi told Kim to stop doing things that created a pre-text for the USA to build anti-ballsitic missile systems near China's border in South Korea and Japan.
Michael wrote:Yes, It's a foregone conclusion. I assume Xi told Kim to stop doing things that created a pre-text for the USA to build anti-ballsitic missile systems near China's border in South Korea and Japan.
On 6 March 2017, two THAAD launcher trucks arrived by air transport at Osan Air Base South Korea, for a deployment.[81][82][83][84] Earlier that day, North Korea had launched 4 missiles.[82][81] A Reuters article stated that with the THAAD defense system, a North Korean missile barrage would still pose a threat to South Korea,[85] while an article in the International Journal of Space Politics & Policy said that South Korean forces already possess Patriot systems for point defense and Aegis destroyers capable of stopping ballistic missiles that may come from the north,[42][page needed][original research?] in a three-layer antimissile defense for South Korea.[41]
On 16 March 2017, a THAAD radar arrived in South Korea.[86] The THAAD system is kept at Osan Air Base[87] until the site where the system is due to be deployed is prepared, with an expected ready date of June 2017.[88] Osan Air Base has blast-hardened command posts with 3 levels of blast doors.[87]:minute 0:45
By 25 April 2017, six trailers carrying the THAAD radar, interceptor launchers, communications, and support equipment entered the Seongju site.[89][90] On 30 April 2017, it was reported that South Korea would bear the cost of the land and facilities for THAAD, while the US will pay for operating it.[91] On 2 May 2017, Moon Sang-gyun, with the South Korean Defense Ministry and Col. Robert Manning III, a spokesman for the U.S. military announced that the THAAD system in Seongju is operational and "has the ability to intercept North Korean missiles and defend South Korea."
Bao : They are all directed towards China, completely useless against North Korea.
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They are all directed towards China, completely useless against North Korea.
While most of the US nuclear weapons deployed in South Korea played only a regional role due to their relatively limited range, the bombs played a unique role that also included strategic missions. In 1974, for example, the US Air Force strapped nuclear bombs under the wings of four F-4D Phantom jets of the 8th Tactical Fighter Wing parked at the end of the Kunsan Air Base runway (US Pacific Command 1975 US Pacific Command. 1975. “Command History 1974, Camp Smith, Hawaii, Volume 1. Partially Declassified and Obtained under FOIA by Peter Hayes.” Excerpts,
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North Korea’s first response to the withdrawal of tactical nuclear weapons from the peninsula was to declare that it would still be threatened by US long-range nuclear weapons based elsewhere. On November 1, 1991, Reuters reported an article in the official North Korean daily Rodong Sinmun that ridiculed the United States for talking about removing nuclear weapons from South Korea while maintaining its nuclear umbrella over the area. “Under such conditions,” the paper said, “the US nuclear threat to us would not be dispelled, even though nuclear weapons are taken out of South Korea.
NK should have never been allowed to acquire nuclear technology if I remember correctly this came about during the
Bush presidency when they started testing devices made
Steve James wrote:NK should have never been allowed to acquire nuclear technology if I remember correctly this came about during the
Bush presidency when they started testing devices made
They've had nuclear technology for a long time. You mean their present ballistic missile technology. Either way, China gave them the tech; and, I'm not sure how to stop them.
I ment the first testing of creadibl devices "The 2006 North Korean nuclear test was the detonation of a nuclear device conducted by North Korea on October 9, 2006. On October 3, 2006, North Korea announced its intention to conduct a nuclear test."
The denial by the US at the time of what it was, showed weakness as it represented a trip wire that was never tripped. The main difference now the delivery system and along with improvement of their devices, pose a credible threat to the US mainland. One that can't be ignored
After all, reunification is a good thing for China. NKorea has always been its buffer zone. China is the only reason the US did not win the war.
Sure, the North can and has struck the South. And, denuclearization won't affect that at all. NK still has an enormous conventional army, as does China.
Reunification, or a formal end of the war, will mean that there's less need for US troops on the peninsula. It will also make it unlikely that the US will be able to attack unilaterally, let alone with nuclear arms. US ground troops just another trip wire, we where under no illusions about the real function of why we were there. Hopefully they will reduce the footprint, they've already moved and closed a number of "camps" bases moving them further south.
Kim will also benefit because there's bound to be some economic quid-pro-quo for his giving up anything. The SKorean president has always wanted to end tensions with the north, from what I've read. So, all in all, it can work out for everybody. Kim can not get support for invading SKorea or criticism for threatening the US. Kim will also gain some access to SKorean tech; so, he will be better off in that way too. It's great for the peninsula --if it works out.
It's great for the peninsula --if it works out.
windwalker wrote:They've been there before the only difference now is that NK does pose a credible threat against the US mainland.
Over the course of five years, there were 35 SSBN visits, all to Chinhae, with some vessels visiting several times each year (see Table 1). All the visits were by older Polaris submarines that only operated in the Pacific; each carried 16 missiles with up to 48 nuclear warheads.
The reason for these port visits is still unclear, but the timing coincided with the period when the United States significantly reduced deployment of nonstrategic nuclear weapons in Korea. This period overlapped with the years when the United States discovered and attempted to stop South Korea’s secret program to develop nuclear weapons.4
4. For an excellent overview of US efforts to stop the South Korean nuclear weapons program, see Burr (2017a Burr, W. 2017a. “Stopping Korea From Going Nuclear, Part I.” National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 582, March 22.
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(It also so happens that South Korea was going through political turmoil at the time, culminating with the assassination of President Park Chung-hee on October 26, 1979.) It is possible that the SSBN visits were an explicit attempt to reassure Seoul about the US security commitment
Bao wrote:. Again, and as always, the problems that the US has with other countries is only the US fault.
The main difference now the delivery system and along with improvement of their devices, pose a credible threat to the US mainland. One that can't be ignored.
Steve James wrote:The main difference now the delivery system and along with improvement of their devices, pose a credible threat to the US mainland. One that can't be ignored.
Russia and China both have much more credible threats to the US mainland. The only difference is that Kim, like Saddam, can be accused of being crazy enough to try. In that sense, Trump is just like them both. good your back on track, its about Trump..you might try looking up MAD to understand about china and russia threats..
Xi and Kim know a good opportunity when they see it. Even if NK had ballistic missiles, there's no way it could win a war that way. And, if all Kim wanted was to inflict US casualties, there are other ways that might even be deniable.
How do you know what they know?
Anyway, if there were no US troops in Korea,but there are, and the history that made it so there'd be no Kim dynasty trying to get weapons to reach the US, or wanting to kick the US off the peninsula altogether. China wasn't threatening to invade or attack the US, and neither was Vietnam. And, none of this has anything to do with caring for Koreans. And you know this how? amazing. That's why the meeting between the Koreas is a great thing. Its a good choice over going to war.
Well, we shouldn't be involved in Cuba either. (See Mike, I'm not an imperialist).
How do you know what they know?
but there are [US troops], and the history that made it so
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