Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby windwalker on Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:07 am

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:05 am

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Yep, the Dems are evil for not enforcing their laws. And neither Bush nor Trump nor the Republicans --the party of "family values" --complained about it then, nor did anything about it. The joke is that it's always the other guy's fault.

Dems also put in clean air and water rules that the current administration changed because they think those rules are changed.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:17 pm

Flawless Victory. Antifa gets Knocked OUT.



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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:25 am

I looked up Proud Boys. It made me think of something funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:12 am

Funny? Stanhope sounds almost nihilistic to me in that clip. He's barely even making jokes, instead just attacking any concepts of group identity, such as nationalism, with contempt for anything but individualism, and with a pretense to compassion that seems contraindicated by the tone of his voice. I really can't imagine him giving a cigarette to anyone he thought disagreed with him.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 am

Yep, it was really funny especially in regard to the Proud Boys. It's typical that they're proud of things they didn't do. And, it's especially funny when he says he'd be ashamed to say that a barefoot immigrant, who can't speak English, is more qualified for your job than you are.

Hey, if I said that I'm something because the Egyptians built pyramids, you'd smile too. Just as I smile when people talk about who "built" the country --after their parents arrived in 1947.

At any rate, you can dislike the guy; but, that's just a tactic to disprove the truth of his argument. And afa the Antifa guy getting hit by the ?Proud Boy twice his size, I never saw how that was funny. Well, in fact, I had no idea of what was happening except for the banner on the video. That's why I looked up Proud Boys. Before that, I just saw a guy clock another guy. If there were no captions, I wouldn't say that was funny.

Otoh, I might laugh if I saw someone get knocked out; but, I'd be ashamed. Though, I could see an Antifa activist laugh if they saw a "fa" get knocked on his ass. People enjoy seeing the craziest things, especially when it happens to someone they dislike, and not to themselves.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:36 am

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Now that's what I cal respectin' the flag ;).
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:20 pm

And, it's especially funny when he says he'd be ashamed to say that a barefoot immigrant, who can't speak English, is more qualified for your job than you are.

That was his best joke and it's only funny if you don't understand the topic, but those people deserve to laugh even if it's at their own expense. The importation of unskilled workers prevents the modernization of jobs and industries, especially in agriculture, where capital investment can be avoided and workers have no rights.

It's typical that they're proud of things they didn't do. Hey, if I said that I'm something because the Egyptians built pyramids, you'd smile too. Just as I smile when people talk about who "built" the country --after their parents arrived in 1947.

Liberals invent elective group identities with special rights and status, and champion some group identities, but then pretend they don't understand the meaning of a group identity when their opponent expresses pride in theirs.

And afa the Antifa guy getting hit by the ?Proud Boy twice his size, I never saw how that was funny.

The antifa had a weapon, a collapsible baton, you can easily see that he twice hit the "Proud Boy twice his size" with it and got KTFO'd, that's what's funny, because irony. The other irony is even with numerical superiority of 2x or 3x to 1, and the cops disarming the legally permitted marchers while allowing antifa to keep their weapons (clubs, batons, knives, explosives, all of which they used), antifa still lost the fight.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:41 pm

Yeah, you're right, the guy had a stick --and probably deserved to get knocked out. I still don't think it was particularly funny as humor or particularly political. But, ya got me there. Homeboy wanted a fight and got one.

Liberals invent elective group identities with special rights and status, and champion some group identities, but then pretend they don't understand the meaning of a group identity when their opponent expresses pride in theirs.


That's just a right-wing cliche. You think that "liberals" created black or white identity in this country? The Constitution invented different classes of "citizens," or should I say inhabitants. Besides, I looked up the Proud Boys, and according to their founder, Gavin McInnes, the group is a "pro-Western fraternal organization" for men who "refuse to apologize for creating the modern world."

That's cool. White men --which is already a fraternity-- have a lot to be proud of. Then again, I never read a history book without white male heroes. Do you know any cities without statues of white men, or pictures of white men hanging in courthouses? The question has never been white men not being recognized for their achievements.

The Proud Boys first problem starts when women or any other group asserts their pride and celebrates itself: for example, Black History month or Gay Pride parades or naming holidays after Native Americans. The second problem is that talking about anyone else often means pointing out something negative that white men have done. We learned about Custer's Last Stand, and he was a hero until the Sioux version was told.

Only the personally insecure are worried about the successes of others and need to depend on group pride. There are loads of those, and they can be manipulated. Just like the comedian said, "We saved the French in WW1 and WW2." No, "you" didn't. In reality, you might have watched it on the Discovery Channel while knocking back a few brewskies.

Well, if people want to take credit for the way the world is today, fine. Just as long as they own the things it all, and not blame everyone else for any problems that exist. Ya don't have to apologize, but don't expect a pat on the back.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:21 am

You think that "liberals" created black or white identity in this country?

Are those elective identities?

The Proud Boys first problem starts when women or any other group asserts their pride and celebrates itself: for example, Black History month or Gay Pride parades or naming holidays after Native Americans

What are you talking about? This was a legal, permitted march through downtown Portland for a Washington senatorial candidate to US Congress and, because of the organized violence of antifa at previous events, the Proud Boys joined the march to protect the candidate. Also possibly political affiliation because of their similar platforms of free speech. There was nothing about black history, gay pride, etc.

Only the personally insecure are worried about the successes of others and need to depend on group pride.

Are you saying only insecure people depend on group pride? If so, two things: (1) it's vague, how does it relate, and (2) that's really an exaggeration into something negative from that which is common and normal, and probably a necessary evolutionary development associated with tribalism. People need to feel good about themselves and, by extension, feel good about the groups to which they belong. It's probably one of many survival mechanisms that we have and would naturally include our stories and histories.

Antifa are not exactly live and let live types either and I don't know how much of their motivation is concern for others' success or just overall hatred for many things, including America.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:15 pm

Are those elective identities?


First answer whether you claim that "liberals" created them. Afaik, those identities were created by the people who made the laws that prevented Black people from voting, not to mention that women (even those with white identity) were not permitted to vote. Liberals didn't write those laws.

This was a legal, permitted march through downtown Portland


??? My point wasn't about their march. I was talking about the Proud Boy ideology.

Are you saying only insecure people depend on group pride? Are you saying only insecure people depend on group pride?


Not exactly. I'm saying that only people who are insecure about their own accomplishments need group pride. I'm not proud of "Black people." I'm proud of individuals who've overcome obstacles. But, see, you could ask me whether I'm proud of Americans, and I would say the same thing. Then again, I'm proud of Jackie Robinson, but not of Don King. Neither of whom have any effect on my pride of self.

I'll also add that I think it's useless, but understandable, if an Italian is proud of Da Vinci or if an Englishman takes pride in the accomplishments of Isaac Newton. We just know for a fact that the average Italian can't sculpt and the average Englishman couldn't invent calculus. And, those who can do not need to depend on their Italian or English heritage.

Let's not forget, though, that in this country, "all ... men are created equal and endowed by their Creator".... etc, etc. So, since I'm an 8th generation American, I belong to that group. Btw, I consider American an ethnicity--that distinguishes "us" from the English, Canadians, Jamaicans, and Australians. "White" group identity is a joke, as made up as Aryan identity.
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