Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

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Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:18 am

Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

The content of Chen Shi Taijiquan (1963) Chapter 1, pp. 5-60:

Chapter 1 Eight unique features of Chen Shi Taijiquan

Introduction
1. An exercise directed by [specific] intention and energy
1.1 Internal energy and use of intention
1.2 The reality of intention and energy
2. Springy exercise by the elongation of limbs and torso
2.1 Elongation of limbs and torso
2.2 The effects of elongation
2.3 Springiness of expanding tension and differences between the eight tensions
2.4 Mastering springy exercise
3. Following and inversing in wrapping silk and spiral exercise
3.1 The practicality of exercise like wrapping silk
3.2 The application of wrapping silk in spiral exercise
3.3 The different types of tension in wrapping silk and important points
3.4 Mastering spiral exercise
4. Upper and lower coordination of light and heavy with body upright
4.1 Light and heavy in proportions
4.2 Three basics of light and heavy
4.3 Mastering light and heavy
4.4 Compare light and heavy with different weights, floating, and sinking
5. Head directed by the spine, exercise with internal and external coordination of every joints
5.1 Essence of coordinating every joints
5.2 The relationship between one moves all moves and the spine
5.3 Coordination and strengthening joints
5.4 Suitable manipulation of joints
5.5 Mastering coordination of joints
6. Exercise completed in one go, continuous and non-stop
6.1 The reality of completion in one go
6.2 Examples of experts
6.3 Spirit, energy, and motion all in one go
6.4 Different tensions and completion in one go
7. From low tension to high tension, from high tension to low tension, the exercise of coordinating tensions
7.1 Coordination of tensions
7.2 A period of getting rid of stiffness to seek low tension
7.3 A period of training to produce high tension from low tension
7.4 Interchange of low tension and high tension
7.5 Mastering the coordination of tensions
8. From slow to fast, from fast to slow, exercise of slow and fast simultaneously
8.1 The development of slow and fast
8.2 The training and requirement of slow and fast
8.3 Timing, coordination, and different tensions in slow and fast
8.4 Mastering slow and fast
Conclusion
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby cloudz on Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:05 am

That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:44 pm

cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby cloudz on Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:15 am

Ok, yes I recall now. Share more interesting things from the chapter if you can.

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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:50 pm

I am working on the mind and body relation at the moment, and I think I will post a summary on his ideas on the subject of intention and energy (Yi and Qi).
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Appledog on Wed May 23, 2018 10:10 am

Yeung wrote:
cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.


I would swear I have a book where this was translated into English. It's a foreward by Shen Jia-Zhen talking about the unique features of Chen style.

It's in a relatively popular and well known book IIRC. I'll have a look through my collection and see what I can come up with.
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:58 am

Appledog wrote:
Yeung wrote:
cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.


I would swear I have a book where this was translated into English. It's a foreward by Shen Jia-Zhen talking about the unique features of Chen style.

It's in a relatively popular and well known book IIRC. I'll have a look through my collection and see what I can come up with.

Have you come up with the book yet?
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby cdobe on Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:23 am

Yeung wrote:
cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.

Can you provide the original Chinese you used for your translation?
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:38 am

cdobe wrote:
Yeung wrote:
cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.

Can you provide the original Chinese you used for your translation?


This is only the contents of Chapter 1 of the book, just let me know which section is of interest to you. At the momnet I am working on the sprinyiness or recoils in Taijiquan.
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby cloudz on Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:10 am

maybe someone can send this to Brennan, marked priority.
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby LaoDan on Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:26 am

Yeung wrote:Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

The content of Chen Shi Taijiquan (1963) Chapter 1, pp. 5-60:

Chapter 1 Eight unique features of Chen Shi Taijiquan

4.4 Compare light and heavy with different weights, flowing, and sinking

This does look like it could be a good work to have translated.
Is there a typo in the quoted chapter? Should it be FLOATING instead of FLOWING?
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:49 pm

LaoDan wrote:
Yeung wrote:Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

The content of Chen Shi Taijiquan (1963) Chapter 1, pp. 5-60:

Chapter 1 Eight unique features of Chen Shi Taijiquan

4.4 Compare light and heavy with different weights, flowing, and sinking

This does look like it could be a good work to have translated.
Is there a typo in the quoted chapter? Should it be FLOATING instead of FLOWING?

Thank you for your proofreading and you are right.
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby D_Glenn on Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 am

Sections 6.4 to 8.4 sound interesting
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Sun May 10, 2020 7:49 am

cdobe wrote:
Yeung wrote:
cloudz wrote:That all sounds quite interesting Yeung, is there a translation of this book do you know ?


I asked your question before, and the answer is no. This is why I translated the content of Chapter one which is all theory. The following two chapters are on forms. Chapter four and five were written by Gu Liuxin which do not make too much sense to most people.

Can you provide the original Chinese you used for your translation?

陈式太极拳简介
第一章 陈式太极拳的八个特点
第一特点 大脑支配下的意气运动
一、内气和用意
二、意气运动的实现
第二特点 身肢放长的弹性运动
一、身肢放长
二、身肢放长的生理作用
三、八门劲别与弹性的棚劲
四、弹性运动(捌劲)的掌握
第三特点 顺逆缠丝的螺旋运动
一、运劲如缠丝的实质
二、缠丝式螺旋运劲的作用
三、缠丝劲的种类及其要点
四、螺旋运劲的掌握
第四特点 立身中正、上下相随的虚实运动
一、虚实比例
二、三种基本虚实
三、虚实的掌握
四、轻重浮沉与虚实
第五特点 腰脊带头、内外相合的节节贯串运动
一、节节贯串的实质
二、一动全动和腰脊的关系
三、节节贯串与增强关节
四、关节动度的调节
五、节节贯串的掌握
第六特点 相连不断、滔滔不绝的一气呵成运动
一、一气呵成的实现
二、名家行拳实例
三、神气动荡和一气呵成①
四、劲别和一气呵成
第七特点 从柔到刚,从刚到柔的刚柔相济运动
一、刚柔相济拳
二、求软摧僵时期
三、练柔成刚时期
四、刚柔的变换
五、刚柔相济的掌握
第八特点 从慢到快、从快到慢的快慢相间运动
一、快慢的发展程序
二、由慢转快的时间和条件
三、快慢相间和匀清、劲别
四、快慢相间的掌握
结语
第二章 陈式太极拳第一路图解
第三章 陈式太极拳第二路图解
第四章 陈式太极拳推手
第五章 陈式太极拳拳论
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Re: Shen Jiazhen’s eight unique features of Taijiquan

Postby Yeung on Tue May 12, 2020 10:19 am

"4.4 Compare light and heavy with different weights, floating, and sinking"

With going into details, Shen suggested that light but not floating, and sinking but not heavy.
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