Bao wrote:Look at martial arts such as karate that usually make use of an strong pronounced hikite(pulling back arm, fist to the hip) in most techniques.
Most people pull back the fist using the arm only, not by pressing back the scapula.
Most people maybe, but an experienced karateka,No. One develop well trained upper back muscles with proper training. Sinking the shoulders same thing in Karate, the scapula area is very much in play when playing......But I agree on most longfist I’ve seen it seem as just movement of the arms....