wiesiek wrote:ps
maybe Origami "segments of the body" is better description
.Although the hundred bodies have not yet employed the
technique in application, the Mind has already solemnly prepared to face the situation and soothingly get into the
situation.
Now that the mind is stirred into motion, although the body has not yet applied itself to the matter
(thereby manifesting technique) the technique is there (in potential form) ready for use. The technique and the
Mind are (both) there. Depending on how the situation changes, the Mind will master over it.
johnwang wrote:wiesiek wrote:ps
maybe Origami "segments of the body" is better description
But how to achieve that? Again, if we don't know how to do that, how can we prevent that from happening?
windwalker wrote:With those I work with when we speak of double weight or double light. It refers to the mind and body being in the same place at the same time, or in the case of double light not being there.
For double weight, the body is unable to change due the mind being locked into a forced outcome....ie resistance, the opposite is collapsed.
Some call this treading the knifes edge. The central idea being one of the ability to change.
How not to do it is to keep practicing with more and more pressure stopping when one is locked up, and looking at possible ways not to be.
vagabond wrote:JW, I have no idea what double weighted means
everything wrote:the basic how to from a tjq pov is probably just fixed step grasp sparrow's tail cooperative exercise.
oragami_itto wrote:if you know how to not be double-weighted, you know how to make someone else double-weighted.
johnwang wrote:oragami_itto wrote:if you know how to not be double-weighted, you know how to make someone else double-weighted.
I feel the opposite. I know how to make my opponent double weighted (if unable to change is the definition). But I don't know how to make myself double weighted.
johnwang wrote:Do you agree that if one trains correctly (no matter what MA system), he will never be double weighted? Do you think Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson ever be in double weighted?
oragami_itto wrote:everything wrote:the basic how to from a tjq pov is probably just fixed step grasp sparrow's tail cooperative exercise.
I would say that the entire body of taijiquan practice concerns it in some way or another. Maybe not overtly, but avoiding it yourself and causing it in others is fundamental. As Windy said, you learn to deal with it with increasing pressure and increasing sophistication through the exercises. The ones I know include solo hand form, four sides, da lu, sanshou, weapons, etc. Literally everything, IMHO, in some way is training you remain balanced and agile, both mentally and physically (in harmony?), under pressure. Then it sort of works like healing. If you know how to heal you know how to kill. Likewise if you know how to not be double-weighted, you know how to make someone else double-weighted. When someone is double-weighted they are very easy to manipulate and beat. So if you are better at making them double-weighted than they are at avoiding it at any given point in time, they get frozen up and in a ready-to-be-beaten posture .
oragami_itto wrote:It's hard to induce it in yourself because you really need some outside force to see/feel the effect.
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