wingchun wrote:Has anyone on here ever touched hands with Shi Ming. or experienced this type of Ling Kong Jing phenomenon as demoed in this clip.
Spent some 10yrs doing my own research regarding this working with my teacher who could do all that was shown and more.
Whether touched or not the function is the same. The clip posted touches on the basics of theory by which it works.
It might help in framing your questions for better answers. The effect itself is part of a much lager skill set that the clip covers..
If so can you please explain what's going on here? Is this "airborn skill" a result of a sort of mental agreement between the two -- the issuer and the issuee in a "game of perception"? or is this some form of the power of suggestion or hypnosis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIjUR-mHCY
wingchun wrote:Is this "airborn skill" a result of a sort of mental agreement between the two -- the issuer and the issuee in a "game of perception"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIjUR-mHCY
windwalker wrote:Spent some 10yrs doing my own research regarding this working with my teacher who could do all that was shown and more.
windwalker wrote:The basics of what, why, and how it works can be found here in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsBJRTPPJc
HotSoup wrote:Even with all conventionality of this clip, it describes a physical skill. What is happening in the OP video is far from that.
oragami_itto wrote:I remember back on empty flower when we used to discuss mentalists. In my opinion this no touch stuff is just an offshoot of the same skills, taking advantage of the mark's desire to believe.
There's some skill to it, but nothing that would prevent a fist to the face.
windwalker wrote:When you start to understand what you feel you know you would see the clip in a different way.
One could argue about what was shown in the clip, the point would be?
As to your other questions. Think about it.
Many who came to practice with my teacher came from other styles, often having the same questions and doubts as some have expressed here,
most stay like myself finding something that was unique and answered many questions that I or others may have had..
The underpinnings of what, why and how are indeed shown in the clip.
If one or you feel what is shown in the clip is a physical skill should be easy to replicate...Most can not, which why they tend to feel its faked, complaint, what ever.
If one can do it they should either understand or know how, what, and why what is called kong jin, works.
start by understanding that
"jin" is something that goes through ones own body and effects another going through the point of contact to do so..
It's a very basic understanding between what is force and what is not....
The OP posted a question with some ill informed assumptions. There is no easy way to explain it with out first having
some basic understanding....to expound on.
There are many clips of kong jin, fails, there are also many clips of CMA fails.
There are no clips that I have seen showing CMA working as practiced in a competitive environment.
Does this mean CMA as a whole doen't work and is not effective?
HotSoup wrote:I don't really see how making an appeal to some people that like to train with your teacher or others, who failed as CMA practitioners actually prove your claim. .
wingchun wrote:Has anyone on here ever touched hands with Shi Ming. or experienced this type of Ling Kong Jing phenomenon as demoed in this clip. If so can you please explain what's going on here? Is this "airborn skill" a result of a sort of mental agreement between the two -- the issuer and the issuee in a "game of perception"? or is this some form of the power of suggestion or hypnosis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIjUR-mHCY
windwalker wrote:Others can always meet to see what or who failed what.
Nothing to prove. Making an "appeal" right .
As usale many things on this site can be written about with out question, when what is shown is questioned its often
the same ones writing about it for the most part, are also the same ones attempting to discredit it. Always find it strange but
expected.
What is demoed by most teachers are "demos" showing a skill set...its not how its used, nor why.
The skill is developed as part of a larger training system shown in the clip posted.
Met people in China, and lately in Taiwan who've felt it as part of a larger skill set.....
They op asked about those with experience with it, I suppose looking for their thoughts.
If those with out, or think they know want to answer...
go for it
wingchun wrote:Has anyone on here ever touched hands with Shi Ming. or experienced this type of Ling Kong Jing phenomenon as demoed in this clip. If so can you please explain what's going on here? Is this "airborn skill" a result of a sort of mental agreement between the two -- the issuer and the issuee in a "game of perception"? or is this some form of the power of suggestion or hypnosis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIjUR-mHCY
GrahamB wrote:wingchun wrote:Has anyone on here ever touched hands with Shi Ming. or experienced this type of Ling Kong Jing phenomenon as demoed in this clip. If so can you please explain what's going on here? Is this "airborn skill" a result of a sort of mental agreement between the two -- the issuer and the issuee in a "game of perception"? or is this some form of the power of suggestion or hypnosis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzIjUR-mHCY
At least that kid at the end of the clip got a hair cut eventually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXxyuRp ... 0LQm8oPgBe
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