Taught by Master Chen Yingjun, son of Chen Xiaowang, in March 2011 by private lesson, wrote:Buttock, Kua and Dang
Buttocks
• Follow direction of the spine
• Perpendicular to the ground
• Avoid protruding buttocks or tucking in too much – this may create tension and prevents legs from moving freely
Kua
• Kua needs to be relaxed
• It’s purpose is to facilitate the coordination of upper and lower body movements
• Turning of the waist from left to right and shifting of weights in the legs rely on kua being relaxed and loose.
• When the kua is relaxed, the weight burden on legs increases. If legs are not strong enough, the kua will tighten. As a result, knee extend over the toes, abdominals and chest stick out, and the body leaning backwards.
• Relaxed kua + smooth turning of waist = smooth weight transferring. From this, upper body is able to realize lightness or solidity.
Dang
• The shape of the legs when in a stance.
• The overall look of the stance (from pelvis downward) should be like an up-side-down ‘U’ and not like a ‘V’ shape.
• Muscles in the inner thigh have the feeling of slightly pushing outward.
• The dang should be light, flexible and relaxed.
• Collapsing dang: when buttocks drop below level of knees.
• The angle of bent legs should not be less than 90 degrees.
• Keeping the dang rounded and opened increases strength in the legs.
everything wrote:is there any sports example where this term or concept seems practically helpful or at least illuminating as an observer if not practitioner
everything wrote:is there any sports example where this term or concept seems practically helpful or at least illuminating as an observer if not practitioner
johnwang wrote:I was going to ask the same thing.
- Why do I need to train this?
- How can this improve my fighting skill?
- How can this improve my health?
- ...
Trick wrote:everything wrote:is there any sports example where this term or concept seems practically helpful or at least illuminating as an observer if not practitioner
In most combat sports there’s at least a concern to wear a “Dang Dang” protection …………Well, for the males anyway
johnwang wrote:everything wrote:is there any sports example where this term or concept seems practically helpful or at least illuminating as an observer if not practitioner
I was going to ask the same thing.
- Why do I need to train this?
- How can this improve my fighting skill?
- How can this improve my health?
- ...
We habitually respond to forces in front of us by pushing back (resisting), or by pulling to our rear. This is, in effect, responding horizontally. We have taught ourselves from childhood to use our weight against resistant objects that we wish to move, which is reflected in the sayings “put your back into it” or “throwing your weight around.” If we push or pull against something that suddenly gives way, we can lose our balance and may fall down. This is the result of acting on forces horizontally. This horizontal approach can be exploited because of the loss of stability when the pressure suddenly changes, and Taijiquan warns against leaning against the opponent.
LaoDan wrote:The importance is for avoiding the “butting cow” (顶牛 ding niu) error (using primarily horizontal force) that is often witnessed especially in things like push-hands. The rounded groin instead produces a more vertical force into the legs, like an architectural arch that directs forces down into the support columns (the lower legs) rather than outwards. Vertical force aligns with gravity and favors what we naturally practice every time we stand up.
Chen Weiming wrote: In the case of ward-off, there is direct ward-off, horizontal ward-off, upward ward-off, or downward ward-off
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LaoDan wrote:...Here is a quote from my preliminary incomplete draft:
We habitually respond to forces in front of us by pushing back (resisting), or by pulling to our rear. This is, in effect, responding horizontally. We have taught ourselves from childhood to use our weight against resistant objects that we wish to move, which is reflected in the sayings “put your back into it” or “throwing your weight around.” If we push or pull against something that suddenly gives way, we can lose our balance and may fall down. This is the result of acting on forces horizontally. This horizontal approach can be exploited because of the loss of stability when the pressure suddenly changes, and Taijiquan warns against leaning against the opponent.
Chengfu wrote:At the same time, take the left hand and lift it up in front of the chest, with the heart of the palm facing in. The elbow drops slightly. Then, using my wrist to attach to the opponents arm between the elbow and wrist, I use horizontal energy (heng jin) to ward off forward and upwardly (peng qu). One must not show a stiff and wooden appearance; then, when the opponents strength has already been shifted by me, his position becomes unstable of its own accord.
Essence & Applications
LaoDan wrote:To me it is about favoring vertical forces as opposed to horizontal ones like a butting cow. Not that a butting cow cannot produce powerful force, but that is just training strength against strength rather than optimizing structure (i.e., stacking the structure vertically with gravity). I think that we train to act differently than we act instinctively, and we want to maximize the springs through our legs rather than bracing (and tensing) to act horizontally.
LaoDan wrote: In TJQ there is often talk about the verticality of the spine or the “stacking” of the body (or not leaning...) but there is less talk connecting this with the verticality into the lower legs (thus the reason for the pending article).
LaoDan wrote:Thanks Trip,
I need to make it clearer that I am talking about the legs, not the expression of energy in the upper body and arms. Of course you will have the turning of the waist which will translate into horizontal forces and applications.
LaoDan wrote:Here is a quote from my preliminary incomplete draft:
We habitually respond to forces in front of us by pushing back (resisting), or by pulling to our rear. This is, in effect, responding horizontally.
LaoDan wrote:I need to make it clearer that I am talking about the legs...
In TJQ there is often talk about the verticality of the spine or the “stacking” of the body (or not leaning...) but there is less talk connecting this with the verticality into the lower legs (thus the reason for the pending article).
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