edededed wrote:It is a bit strange how Zen (Chan) spread from China to Japan, yet in Japan (where Zen is well-established), we do not hear of Yijinjing or Xisuijing (but we do see miniaturized Bodhidharmas all over). Some questions from me:
- Were Yijinjing and Xisuijing part of Chan? If so, when were they taught (or not)?
- What parts of Chan/Zen were taught when transmitting it to other temples/countries?
- What Zen sect does Shaolin belong to? (How do they practice the meditation part, e.g. with koans? Or wall-staring?)
It is unheard of for Zen monks to practice martial arts as part of their practice in Japan.
On the other hand, in Korea there is a martial art uncreatively called "Seonmudo" (which means, 'Zen martial arts') that the monks seem to practice. It would be quite interesting to learn more about it - but I would be very surprised if they have an yijinjing set, etc. I guess that much of it would have been recreated in the last century, but I hope not.
The legendary account springs from two prefaces which accompany the Yijin Jing. One of these prefaces purports to be written by the general Li Jing in 628 during the Tang Dynasty, while the other purports to be written by the general Niu Gao, an officer of the Song Dynasty General Yue Fei. However, there are several inaccuracies and inconsistencies in these forewords that cast doubt on the authenticity of Bodhidharma's authorship of the Yijin Jing.
It was specifically the foreword by Li Jing by which Tang Hao traced the attribution of Shaolin Kung Fu to Bodhidharma.[1] Li Jing's foreword refers to "the tenth year of the Taihe period of Emperor Xiaoming of Northern Wei."[2] The Taihe reign period did not occur under Emperor Xiaoming but under Emperor Xiaowen and, in its tenth year (487 CE), the Shaolin temple did not yet exist according to the Jiaqing Chongxiu Yitongzhi, itself an updated compilation of earlier records, which states that the Shaolin temple was built in the twentieth year of the Taihe era (497 CE).[3] Li Jing's foreword also claims that he received the manual containing the exercises from the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客, Qiuran ke), a popular fictional character from a Tang Dynasty story of the same name by Du Guangting (850-933).[4][5]
Niu Gao's foreword mentions the Qinzhong temple, which wasn't erected until 20 years after the date he claims to be writing. He also claims to be illiterate. Dictation could resolve the question of how an illiterate could write a foreword, but it is almost certain that a general of Niu Gao's stature was not illiterate. Thus during the 18th century, the scholar Ling Tingkan concluded in a sarcastic fashion that the author of the Yijin Jing must have been an "ignorant" and a "master" all at the same time (i.e., Tingkan states that the author must have been an "ignorant village master").
The text of the Yijin Jing was probably composed by the Taoist priest Zining writing in 1624.[6][7] The earliest surviving edition of the Yijin Jing was dated by Ryuchi Matsuda to 1827. In the course of his research, Matsuda found no mention of—let alone attribution to—Bodhidharma in any of the numerous texts written about the Shaolin martial arts[8] before the 19th century.[9]
taiwandeutscher wrote:Scholars are now convinced that Yijinjing is Daoist by nature, Xisuijing might be the same!
Yeung wrote:taiwandeutscher wrote:Scholars are now convinced that Yijinjing is Daoist by nature, Xisuijing might be the same!
May be you can do a quick review of this article:
http://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/ ... 202303.pdf
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