johnwang wrote:Do you agree with the following definition?
If your opponent drags you toward the west direction and you move into the
- west direction, that's yielding.
- east direction, that's resisting.
- north, south, north west, south west, ... direction, that's not yielding. That's resisting and "切 (Qie) cutting - cut into a new direction".
johnwang wrote:- north, south, north west, south west, ... direction, that's not yielding. That's resisting and "切 (Qie) cutting - cut into a new direction".
johnwang wrote:When you
- pull, you can handle both resisting and yielding.
- push, you can handle resisting, but you can't handle yielding:
. . . When I pull you toward the west direction and my body is moving toward the north direction, if you want to shoulder strike me toward the north direction, you have to resist my west direction pulling first before you can apply the north direction force. IMO, that's against the definition of yielding.
This is why the shaking force is 100% against the yielding force. When your opponent shakes you, it's very difficult to cut your force into a new direction.
. . . Agree that we have to define this term so we can all agree with.
I have difficulty to explain to marvin8 that if I use shaking force on him toward the "west" direction, it's difficult for him to apply the "north" direction force on me. Even if he can do that, that's not yielding. That's resisting and cutting instead
marvin8 wrote:When you low kick, parry and reach for the opponent, one can counter with a straight right/left, kick, check your kick, etc.
"When you pull," your opponent can yield and redrag, elbow, chop, strike, etc.
marvin8 wrote:I believe you're discussing your comments from ...
Yielding is like a cat being petted, the cat regulates the pressure.
Bao wrote:Yielding is like a cat being petted, the cat regulates the pressure.
The cat can yield pretty good, but you can also trap it by following and fill in the cat's yielding.
This is why yielding is a mistake. Had a few very good discussions about "yielding" lately and about the Chinese terminology, which made a few things clear, concepts and translation mistakes that I hadn't consider before. The skill is actually "hua", guiding and transforming. But "rang", or letting the opponent use his force free, is considered a mistake. If you consider to "yield", you must understand that yielding is like doing yin without yang. At its best, it's only a half part half of something that needs another half to work as a functional skill.
Steve James wrote:Yielding to an opponent pushing your shoulders on the front can be done several ways,
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