GrahamB wrote:I fashioned a walking stick from a stick on a walk through the woods. An interesting dynamic to use one as you walk, since I've never used one before.
If you time it right it really gives you a forward kick on the flat, which is when I realised that it's essentially a shortcut to using Jin. You push your weight down into the ground through the stick and it propels you forward from your feet using the power of the ground.
In Tai Chi we're essentially trying to do this 'force down then up' inside our own legs when we use Jin in a technique like, say, push. It's very hard to know what that's meant to feel like unless you have somebody to show you, and even then you need the gumption to perceive how it's done and how it's different to a usual shoulder push. Experimenting with a walking stick while you walk may help you get the feel quicker.
Thoughts?
GrahamB wrote:Some Baji for comparison:
GrahamB wrote:I fashioned a walking stick from a stick on a walk through the woods. An interesting dynamic to use one as you walk, since I've never used one before.
If you time it right it really gives you a forward kick on the flat, which is when I realised that it's essentially a shortcut to using Jin. You push your weight down into the ground through the stick and it propels you forward from your feet using the power of the ground.
In Tai Chi we're essentially trying to do this 'force down then up' inside our own legs when we use Jin in a technique like, say, push. It's very hard to know what that's meant to feel like unless you have somebody to show you, and even then you need the gumption to perceive how it's done and how it's different to a usual shoulder push. Experimenting with a walking stick while you walk may help you get the feel quicker.
Thoughts?
GrahamB wrote:Appledog, I think you're getting what I'm talking about confused with martial arts that stamp hard into the ground. Like, say Baji. Whether that is correct Baji or not (I don't know) at least some people do stamp. You see the same in some styles of XingYi also "move with the sound of thunder/landslide".
But to be clear, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about properly done Tai Chi. For his faults in other areas, I think Chen Manching was a good example of power coming up from the ground. There's no need for stamping. It's 'soft'. The same way as there's no need for stamping a walking stick into the ground. There's just sinking. Sinking through a relaxed frame (song) lets the power got up from the ground and out the hands.
Appledog wrote:Anyways I still might not quite understand what you meant exactly, could you post a video and show what you mean? As a hiker myself who walks up guanzhiling here in Taiwan every now and then I am somewhat familiar with walking sticks but not with the method you have described.
GrahamB wrote:You push your weight down into the ground through the stick and it propels you forward from your feet using the power of the ground.
In Tai Chi we're essentially trying to do this 'force down then up' inside our own legs when we use Jin in a technique like, say, push. It's very hard to know what that's meant to feel like unless you have somebody to show you, and even then you need the gumption to perceive how it's done and how it's different to a usual shoulder push. Experimenting with a walking stick while you walk may help you get the feel quicker.
Sikana English on Jul 6, 2017
In this video, you will learn the basic Nordic Walking action, a technique using both your arms and your legs:
No Appledog, I'm talking about really bad Tai Chi - the way it Doesn't work.
Unfortunately it feels like I'm talking French and everybody else here talks German...
middleway wrote:
Further proof arrives in the form of you posting MS videos where his front foot goes light all the time as he 'braces' against any type of force. Its the same with the video of him holding the weight of a heavy bag at bay below ... his front foot literally comes off the floor! It really is a 'different' language you are right...
https://vimeo.com/233877721
Note the verse doesn't say
"The jin should be
rooted in the Foot,
generated from the leg, "
So much to learn ... so little time.
I'm going to quote this before you delete it
I don't think you realise how foolish it makes you sound
To use a MS phrase - I think you just outed yourself.
"The jin should be
rooted in the Foot,
generated from the leg, "
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