As Mike shows, when you absorb strength down to the ground with the hands/arms, there is a feeling that you use a direct connection from hand to feet. He uses the body mostly passively as a stationary, unmovable frame. If you use a walking stick, then you separate the frame from the ground, but what he shows is how to let the incoming pressure fall naturally into the frame. The frame takes the pressure from the gravity straight down. So, using Mike's terminology, the use of stick might use the jin path to take the gravity instead of the frame?
Also, generating jin is different from being able to handle pressure from the outside. I don't think they should be confused together. But that's maybe another topic...
jaime_g wrote:I think that Middleway raised a good point.
Two things that you see a LOT in tcc people are front foot going light when they brace/pull and back foot going light when they push/throw.
What happens if someone attacks your legs when your front foot is light? (for example with single or doble leg takedowns) What happens if someone drags you into a sacrifice throw when your back foot is light? (tomoe nage or soto makikomi)
If have tested these situations a huge amounts of times and usually this happens:
1- The tcc guy ends thrown or dragged all over the place.
2- The tcc guy recovers towards a 60/40 or 50/50 stance.
So if you are going to get thrown or forced to use a more balanced position, why letting any of your foot go light?
Hmmm.... I don't know if I'm getting your whole meaning, and we're going off into the weeds here regarding the original post, but if we're now talking about fighting then my thoughts would be:
The relationship between Mobility and Base are in a constantly shifting yin/yang of balance in a fighter. You can have a strong, wider, base or a mobile, narrower, base. These things shift and vary through infinite variations in relationship to the other person. And that's the key thing - your relationship to the other person: doing what's appropriate. "There's no such thing as good technique, just appropriate technique"
If you never let any of your foot go light at any time (which is what you say) then you're always 50/50 weighted. That doesn't sound very mobile to me.
But think about this - receiving a double leg is one thing, but how do you do a double leg on somebody and keep both feet heavy? Why would you want to?
Why would you want to? In a lot of Judo throws you need to stand on one leg - O soto gari for instance.
b.t.w none of this has anything to do with walking sticks.
middleway wrote:The front is light and inactive. I have seen this directly with an individual who trained his method. Is is highly susceptible.
jaime_g wrote:I think that Middleway raised a good point.
Two things that you see a LOT in tcc people are front foot going light when they brace/pull and back foot going light when they push/throw.
What happens if someone attacks your legs when your front foot is light? (for example with single or doble leg takedowns) What happens if someone drags you into a sacrifice throw when your back foot is light? (tomoe nage or soto makikomi)
Bao wrote:For Graham's walking stick, the side of stick might represent storing jin, the right side of the body, but not the side that releases. Illustrated in the second crappy drawing, below. How the walking stick could help learn how to deal with incoming Jin as shown in the videos, I really have no idea about.
Hope this makes sense...
Interesting, full and empty with those I work with refer to intent, not weight
Bao wrote:Interesting, full and empty with those I work with refer to intent, not weight
I am sure it can be. Though I am not convinced that this was what YCF meant as he sold his name to what was a basic introduction of the art.
So I guess you don't care about how you transfer weight when you do the form?
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