Yeung wrote: do not us brute force,
Yeung wrote:Shen Jiazhen 沈家桢 (1891-1972) in his Chens Taijiquan (1963) did not address the question of double weighted directly but focus on the method of getting rid of stiffness. And if there is no stiffness then the illness of double weighted does not exist. There are other explanations such as do not us brute force, and the use of active stretching and passive recoil, etc.
My view is that the activation of the elastic components of the body will not result in stiffness of any part of the body.
johnwang wrote:People always like to talk about "brute force". What is it?
johnwang wrote:Yeung wrote: do not us brute force,
People always like to talk about "brute force". What is it?
Merriam-Webster wrote:brute-force: relying on or achieved through the application of force, effort, or power in usually large amounts instead of more efficient, carefully planned, or precisely directed methods.
Yeung wrote:In any case you can test the difference with one pushing concentrically and the other one pushing eccentrically, and see who can release their tensions quicker. For more advance practitioners, they can recoil and pull eccentrically, and even make use of the opponent’s force.
Yeung wrote:The concept of Shuang Chong 双重(double weighted) in the context of “The Taijiquan Theory of Wang Zongyue (王宗岳太极拳论 wáng zōngyuè tàijí quán lùn)”, a manual handwritten by Li Yishu 李亦畲 in 1881:
双重之病 (shuāng chóng zhī bìng) Illness of double weighted
欲避此病 (yù bì cǐ bìng) To avoid this illness
须知阴阳 (xū zhī yīn yáng) Just understand passive active
双重则滞 (shuāngchóng zé zhì) Stagnant when double weighted
偏沉则随 (piān chén zé suí) Following when inclined sinking
左重则左虚 (zuǒ zhòng zé zuǒ xū) Left lights when left weighted
右重则右杳 (yòu zhòng zé yòu yǎo) Right disappears when right weighted
There are many interpretation of the concept on the illness of double weighted, one version is by Hong Junsheng 洪钧生 (1907-1996) in pages 356 and 357 of his book entitled “Practical Methods of Chens Taijiquan”, published in 1989, where he suggested: double weighted person, hand leg stiffen, hand moves slow, leg turns stagnant, weight center slant, loss of technique. But his suggestions did not explain the details of following when inclined sinking, left lights when left weighted, and right disappears when right weighted. There are other suggestions of the causes of the illness of double weighted.
Shen Jiazhen 沈家桢 (1891-1972) in his Chens Taijiquan (1963) did not address the question of double weighted directly but focus on the method of getting rid of stiffness. And if there is no stiffness then the illness of double weighted does not exist. There are other explanations such as do not us brute force, and the use of active stretching and passive recoil, etc.
My view is that the activation of the elastic components of the body will not result in stiffness of any part of the body.
Yeung wrote:Zhuo Li 拙力:
“Shuō wén jiě zì” 《说文解字》(100 AD) Zhuo 拙 is not skillful .
johnwang wrote:Yeung wrote:Zhuo Li 拙力:
“Shuō wén jiě zì” 《说文解字》(100 AD) Zhuo 拙 is not skillful .
If someone asks you, "What's brute force?" Will you be able to you demonstrate to him? In other words, do you know how to do "brute force"?
oragami_itto wrote:johnwang wrote:Yeung wrote:Zhuo Li 拙力:
“Shuō wén jiě zì” 《说文解字》(100 AD) Zhuo 拙 is not skillful .
If someone asks you, "What's brute force?" Will you be able to you demonstrate to him? In other words, do you know how to do "brute force"?
Tell them to push me and then push in direct opposition to their Force.
oragami_itto wrote:johnwang wrote:Yeung wrote:Zhuo Li 拙力:
“Shuō wén jiě zì” 《说文解字》(100 AD) Zhuo 拙 is not skillful .
If someone asks you, "What's brute force?" Will you be able to you demonstrate to him? In other words, do you know how to do "brute force"?
Tell them to push me and then push in direct opposition to their Force.
johnwang wrote:This is why the training require that when A punches B, B needs to move in at the same time. It takes B's courage. Since B's head is well protected, B will have more courage than A has.
. . . 2. When my opponent moves in, I move in too.
Since that day, the "head on collusion" became a very important part of my daily training.
johnwang wrote:So by your definition, brute force = force against force.
marvin8 wrote:It's the definition basically given by the Merriam-Webster dictionary. Maybe you have another definition?
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