Ian wrote:windwalker wrote:
Yes. And the British considered the American Thirteen Colonies to be part of the British Empire, and the Soviet Union considered Eastern Europe and Central Asia to be its territory.
If we followed that logic, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, and pieces of the United States and Canada would be part of China.
Ian wrote:windwalker wrote:Good , a student of history but doesn't seem to understand how this achieved and why one has to have a good military.
You misunderstand; I'm not advocating HK independence.
I'm pointing out the irrelevance of your statement that "China, regards all people of Chinese ethnicity to be part of it regardless of nationality."
It's irrelevant because for the third time, HK is a part of China. The vast majority of HK citizens don't dispute that, as Beijing claims.
While true it would seem that some feel some how it is independent of itself...
The protestors list five demands, they're quite succinct, and none of them are about independence. If you're interested, you can look them up.
The truth of the matter is that, of the five demands, the government has responded to most, and has in fact taken a step back or two on some. Viewed in this light, it is fair to say the government has reached out a hand of conciliation. But reconciliation can only be achieved by both sides.
Trick wrote:I got that from the MSM, which ones I have forgot now. And as I said most have forgotten although it was just a few year back.......So time to repeat and do “right” this time the Mericans think.....Ups!
grzegorz wrote:Trick wrote:I got that from the MSM, which ones I have forgot now. And as I said most have forgotten although it was just a few year back.......So time to repeat and do “right” this time the Mericans think.....Ups!
Looking around it seems that the Russian "MSM" (ala RT) is suggesting that the CIA behind the Hong Kong protests.
Hardy credible if you ask me. If you recall RT was showing people fleeing voilence from Russians troops and stating that the people were fleeing Ukraine until those same people identified themselves as fleeing from the Russians.
Sorry but the CIA can't even handle Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, or Valenzuela. To think they somehow hit a homerun in HK is odd to me.
But what do I know?
Trick wrote:Yes as I said the CIA didn’t have an success with the umbrella movement, so they try now again using the “extraction bill” to light a fire and pure oil on it.
And yes you are most probably right that CIA was/is involved in destabilizing plots to those countries you listed. But I actually think they think in those cases theirs involvements are going as planned.
Trick wrote:grzegorz wrote:Trick wrote:I got that from the MSM, which ones I have forgot now. And as I said most have forgotten although it was just a few year back.......So time to repeat and do “right” this time the Mericans think.....Ups!
Looking around it seems that the Russian "MSM" (ala RT) is suggesting that the CIA behind the Hong Kong protests.
Hardy credible if you ask me. If you recall RT was showing people fleeing voilence from Russians troops and stating that the people were fleeing Ukraine until those same people identified themselves as fleeing from the Russians.
Sorry but the CIA can't even handle Afghanistan, Iraq, North Korea, or Valenzuela. To think they somehow hit a homerun in HK is odd to me.
But what do I know?
Yes as I said the CIA didn’t have an success with the umbrella movement, so they try now again using the “extraction bill” to light a fire and pure oil on it.
And yes you are most probably right that CIA was/is involved in destabilizing plots to those countries you listed. But I actually think they think in those cases theirs involvements are going as planned.
. Interesting how many of you guys think this extradition bill is super evil while ok with that HK has an extradition treaty with the US....
The Chinese Proverb of 'Sai Weng Lost His Horse'
Trick wrote:
Yes I’m sure you would have be joining on the streets of HK...even that you’re American, or because of that ?
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