Peacedog wrote:Beijing is clearly losing its grip and they simply lack the resources to keep the whole pie in one piece.
.Government spokesman Steffen Seibert said Friday that Hong Kong’s 1997 Basic Law, under which the city was promised a high degree of autonomy when the former British colony returned to China, “is a Chinese law, and as such we naturally expect that the People’s Republic of China, too, won’t call into question the peaceful exercise of these rights.”
not entirely true, sooner or later if protesters seriously disturb the order of the community, some level of violence is forced to be implemented to bring back order, no matter what regimes in power.Protests and violent suppression go hand in hand with unelected regimes
sorry,sound hard to believe, what was the protests about, where exactly was this supposed to have happened?A friend almost died in central China when he accidently came across one of these at the exact same time the internal security police showed up and started machine gunning people in the early 2000s. It had an interesting and permanent effect upon his politics.
sounds as straight out from the plan and wet dream by the foreign powers that always wanted a weak China.As the financial situation continues to worsen and their access to hard currency gets cut off, it will be interesting to see where Beijing goes with all of this. I expect, 20-30 years from now, China will once again be firmly in the regional powers category if not effectively collapsed into a set of semi-independent states.
windwalker wrote:it is interesting reading the post it sounds like some of the posters are waiting for this to happen.
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. As the financial situation continues to worsen and their access to hard currency gets cut off, it will be interesting to see where Beijing goes with all of this
. The traditional Four Key Industries in Hong Kong, including financial services, tourism, trading and logistics, and professional and producer services, have been the driving force of Hong Kong's economic growth, providing impetus to growth of other sectors and creating employment.
As for Hong Kong, no group of free people has ever been successfully reintegrated into a non-elected government. And the central government cannot be seen giving in to a group of Chinese people either or it will further embolden mainlanders.
The people in charge of the PRC know all of this as well. They are attempting to find a way out of it that avoids their being lynched by the mob. The problem is no unelected government has ever found a way to avoid this fate. They can only hold that day off for so long. What you are currently seeing there is the limit of what it will develop into without elected government.
They are attempting to find a way out of it that avoids their being lynched by the mob.
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Peacedog wrote:Protests and violent suppression go hand in hand with unelected regimes. A friend almost died in central China when he accidently came across one of these at the exact same time the internal security police showed up and started machine gunning people in the early 2000s. It had an interesting and permanent effect upon his politics.
It is just the way it works. The Chinese government, to its credit, appears to have avoided the mass graves approach favored by many unelected, and socialist in particular, governments.
As the financial situation continues to worsen and their access to hard currency gets cut off, it will be interesting to see where Beijing goes with all of this. I expect, 20-30 years from now, China will once again be firmly in the regional powers category if not effectively collapsed into a set of semi-independent states. Beijing is clearly losing its grip and they simply lack the resources to keep the whole pie in one piece.
Trick wrote:windwalker wrote:it is interesting reading the post it sounds like some of the posters are waiting for this to happen.
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Yes so it seem. Even those who claim to be spiritually heightened seemingly doesn’t mind hope for little bloodbath(war) now and then, as long it’s in the name of peace ?
Sure HK belongs to China, so China has the "right", I suppose.
The Hong Kong 1956 riots were the result of escalating provocations between pro-Nationalist and pro-Communist factions in Hong Kong during Double Ten Day, 10 October 1956.[1]Hong Kong 1967 leftist riots
While originating as a minor labour dispute, the tensions later grew into large scale demonstrations against British colonial rule. Demonstrators clashed violently with the Hong Kong Police Force.
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