dspyrido wrote:All these gi art's make me wonder ... why not select freestyle wrestling ...
johnwang wrote:dspyrido wrote:All these gi art's make me wonder ... why not select freestyle wrestling ...
Agree! If you don't learn the jacket wrestling, you may save many years later on in your life time to unlearn it. In jacket wrestling, to use stiff arms to hold your opponent back is a very bad habit. When you hold on your opponent's front waist belt, you have just dis-abled most of his throwing skill. The problem is your opponent can punch on your head right at that moment. I strongly suggest to start from no-jacket wrestling.
After I had switched from jacket wrestling into no-jacket wrestling, I don't even want to go back to jacket wrestling any more. The no-jacket wrestling is much easier to be integrated into the striking art. After I have send people to compete in Sanda tournament, I lose interest to send people to compete in SC tournament. To me, that's moving backward instead of moving forward. I'll be more interested to use my SC skill to deal with a boxer than to deal with another SC guy.
Finny wrote:Would you feel differently if you (or someone you were teaching) had an extensive boxing/kickboxing background?
In other words, do you feel it is worthwhile studying 'jacket wrestling' or training SC exclusively with that striking background? Or still superior to study striking-integrated training from the outset?
wiesiek wrote:btw, anyway
quite often you may have a chance to grab adversary clothes...
wiesiek wrote:btw, anyway
quite often you may have a chance to grab adversary clothes...
wiesiek wrote:btw, anyway
quite often you may have a chance to grab adversary clothes...
All these gi art's make me wonder ... why not select freestyle wrestling mixed in with submission wrestling/grappling (aka catch or nogi)? It is after all the clearly dominant method found in all the top UFC fighters. For those in the USA isn't there a lot more world class wrestling there than anything else? Even around the western world it's accessible.
Trick wrote:wiesiek wrote:btw, anyway
quite often you may have a chance to grab adversary clothes...
Yes, just look at the hockey brawlers, pull the shirt over the other guys head and there you go.... one of my CMA teachers did that on me while sparring, I still managed to plant a punch in his face
middleway wrote:- Most people in my area of the world will be wearing jackets for about 75% of the year
- It is only the dominant method for the people who trained it from an early age, outside of that we see some great Judoka (Rousey) and obviously a huge amount of BJJ people dominating.
middleway wrote:- In the USA i agree the access to amazing wrestling academies should be focused on. In the UK we have VERY little wrestling but a huge amount of Judo. I think that Access to a good system, a good coach and a good training environment is as important as 'what' you are training.
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