windwalker wrote:golden bell, iron shirt
is it the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_ElkAvXcSQ
one might ask is it a healthy practice for ones body in the long run...
windwalker wrote:golden bell, iron shirt
is it the same
...
one might ask is it a healthy practice for ones body in the long run...
Overlord wrote:Very different.
With the medicine ball if you add rotation into it. Iron shirt is useless in my humble opinion.
It's extremely healthy if done correctly and not to excess. The training specifically moves the viscera and organs around in ways not commonly found. You have to have very high levels of health in order to take strikes to the midsection because any weakness of the organs will result in deteriorating long-term health or immediate injury.
Medicine balls are also used to improve the punch resistance of a boxer’s abdomen. This is done by dropping the ball onto the abdomen of the boxer, simulating a punch coming from an opponent. Other athletes use medicine balls to increase their core strength.
One common activity is to have athletes hold the ball against their chest and thrust it at another athlete, who catches it against their chest. This strengthens arm, chest, and leg muscles.
The principles and practice are similar in many ways. The idea is to better withstand strikes so obviously they will share many similarities.
C.J.W. wrote:IMO, not all golden bell/iron shirt methods are created equal.
Some of the hardcore methods I've seen in southern styles develop the ability to take hard hits fairly quickly (within months) through various dynamic tension and compressed breathing exercises, but require the use of special herbal medicines -- both topical and oral -- in order to rectify the internal and external damages that accumulate during training. Having said that, when over-trained, they can still lead to an array of health problems in the long run, especially hypertension and stroke.
It can be said that in addition to Tai Chi, walking and other fitness methods, the uncles and aunts have also invented many unique methods, but is it really good for your health to hit a tree or use a lion? Hurt.
windwalker wrote:It can be said that in addition to Tai Chi, walking and other fitness methods, the uncles and aunts have also invented many unique methods, but is it really good for your health to hit a tree or use a lion? Hurt.
(does it bother anyone that Tai Chi is being dismissed here as a martial art?)
windwalker wrote:(does it bother anyone that Tai Chi is being dismissed here as a martial art?)
should it?
The same could be said of CMA,,,.
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This is not the case in taiji where its "promoted" as something that all can do and benefit from.
Or its taught as some type of therapy or health exercise.....
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