Storm wrote:Am just curious if someone else also currently trains like this or did it in the past?
Overlord wrote:Guo had learn Baji and Monkey fist before Xingyi, so his moves is reknown as fast and agile.
His Beng according to my teacher is zig zag and not straight line.
Secondly, one of Li Cunyi and Guo student went to exchange skills with Shanxi branch, and they found his attack is unstoppable by Shanxi branch. This exchange is of course friendly indoor exchange of skills. So my teacher concluded that because Hebei infused bit of Baji power, so it’s hard to stop if not life and death explosive power used.
I really doubt Guo is that venerable and weak as compare to his kungfu senior. Plus I found chicken Beng is so versatile. But needs bit of courage to test under pressure.
C.J.W. wrote:Overlord wrote:Guo had learn Baji and Monkey fist before Xingyi, so his moves is reknown as fast and agile.
His Beng according to my teacher is zig zag and not straight line.
Secondly, one of Li Cunyi and Guo student went to exchange skills with Shanxi branch, and they found his attack is unstoppable by Shanxi branch. This exchange is of course friendly indoor exchange of skills. So my teacher concluded that because Hebei infused bit of Baji power, so it’s hard to stop if not life and death explosive power used.
I really doubt Guo is that venerable and weak as compare to his kungfu senior. Plus I found chicken Beng is so versatile. But needs bit of courage to test under pressure.
I thought you might be interested in hearing what Shanxi Xingyi guys have to say regarding the infamous exchange between Guo Yunshen and Che Yizhai:
IMO, while I agree that Hebei Xingyi has a a heavier Baji-like power, Shanxi Xingyi is actually more agile and versatile in terms of blending striking and grappling.
If even middle-aged Che style guys with pot bellies can move this well, I think it wouldn't be unfair to say that Che Yizhai would have been quite a handful even for Guo Yunshen.
C.J.W. wrote:Overlord,
Actually, I'm a little confused.
I thought you were saying that because Hebei style has Baji mixed in, it has more power than Shanxi style -- suggesting that Shanxi guys would have had a hard time dealing with Guo's beng chuan.
So if my video clip clears shows that Shanxi style ALSO has Baji power, how does this prove your point?
If anything, I believe this means that Shanxi style has just as much power as Hebei styles in addition to being faster and more agile in general.
C.J.W. wrote:It's all good.
All I'm saying is it's important to be objective when assessing the pros and cons of a system.
P.S. My grand teacher, who was from Shandong, knew Shang Yunxiang personally and actually had the opportunity to train under him. So I can tell you for sure that Shang didn't always "go linear" either.
johnwang wrote:Assume you just train one technique for the next 2 years such as "a kick to the knee followed by a punch to the face". If you repeat this combo 2,000 times daily with your partner (about 2 hours), in 2 years you have repeated this 2 x 365 x 2000 = 1,460,000 times.
After you have drilled this move almost 1.5 million times, when you use it against your opponent, your successful rate should be high. IMO, it's worthwhile to spend 2 years of your life time to develop some dependable MA skill so you can use it for the rest of your life.
What's your opinion on this?
C.J.W. wrote:It's all good.
All I'm saying is it's important to be objective when assessing the pros and cons of a system.
P.S. My grand teacher, who was from Shandong, knew Shang Yunxiang personally and actually had the opportunity to train under him. So I can tell you for sure that Shang didn't always "go linear" either.
Appledog wrote:johnwang wrote:Assume you just train one technique for the next 2 years such as "a kick to the knee followed by a punch to the face". If you repeat this combo 2,000 times daily with your partner (about 2 hours), in 2 years you have repeated this 2 x 365 x 2000 = 1,460,000 times.
After you have drilled this move almost 1.5 million times, when you use it against your opponent, your successful rate should be high. IMO, it's worthwhile to spend 2 years of your life time to develop some dependable MA skill so you can use it for the rest of your life.
What's your opinion on this?
I've spent the last month training the same basic technique for 1 hour every morning in my class. I only have 2 students left now. The basic technique is raise hands. I.E. the first move of tai chi. I do allow minor variations, which amount to the 1st feng zhi quiang qigong exercise, but most of the time is double raise hands, or, single raise hands (one hand at a time).
It's been an interesting experience. I can say after 1 month I am interested in pursuing this for 2 hours plus a day for at least the next two to three months -- minimum.
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