nicklinjm wrote:Obviously the pole work looks weird but at the end of the day it is training the dragon body, which as far as I understand is one of the core requirements of XYLH.
Think people are getting fixated on the 'weird looking' pole drill and missing the gold where Li talks about the internal mechanics underlying Yi and Ha sounds of XYLH - AFAIK this is v rarely discussed on public videos, props to Will for getting him to talk about it on camera
Obviously the pole work looks weird but at the end of the day it is training the dragon body, which as far as I understand is one of the core requirements of XYLH.
dspyrido wrote:nicklinjm wrote:Obviously the pole work looks weird but at the end of the day it is training the dragon body, which as far as I understand is one of the core requirements of XYLH.
Think people are getting fixated on the 'weird looking' pole drill and missing the gold where Li talks about the internal mechanics underlying Yi and Ha sounds of XYLH - AFAIK this is v rarely discussed on public videos, props to Will for getting him to talk about it on camera :)
It's nice to see videos of a rare style and to hear the opinions of those who've trained in it but I can't say it's that profound.
The beauty of XYLH is not about the theory but in the practise and the practise all starts with the forms (better term should be training sequences). Knowing how to sound out which is really only done to signal the end of a sequence is not as important as repeating the motion 1000s of times. Sure pursuing the "sound of thunder" might lead to impressive results or could go nowhere but that's a different topic.
Also the pole stuff might have it's use to help people get past that awkward stiff starting point we all have to go through but in the end it's all in the forms.
That said - it's great to see videos on XYLH and other styles. It's also nice that these are provided freely. There are good bits in it but deep down XYLH can't be learnt with theory.
aamc wrote:Obviously the pole work looks weird but at the end of the day it is training the dragon body, which as far as I understand is one of the core requirements of XYLH.
I just thought the whole sequence was pretty funny, first Tobias is there fondling the pole, before Li Jun Hua grabs his butt and talks about moving the kua. I couldn't keep a straight-face...
chenyaolong wrote:Anyway, just wanna say thanks for the feedback guys!
My purpose with making these videos is to show TCMA as its practiced in China "warts and all" without the hype, mysticism and putting people on pedastals that you see a lot of.
Bhassler wrote:Thanks for posting these-- really looking forward to the Fujian series. I was going to say I hoped you would continue posting more of your own Mantis practice as well, but lo and behold, looks like you posted one just a couple of days ago. Please do keep up the good work!
Bhassler wrote:It may not be especially profound in a conceptual sense, but if it works reliably, it is profound. You say it's all in the forms, and no doubt it should be, but how many people do we see running around doing empty forms with useless or no shenfa? Simple repetition doesn't get it. Just because you yourself got it through talent or teaching or tenacity doesn't mean other people will. It's common around here to hear the refrain that 1 in 100 people will "get it" in terms of IMA. So if this guy's pole exercises get him to where even 5 in 100 students "get it", then I'd say that makes it pretty fucking profound, by comparison. Hopefully the student in the video sticks with it, gets good, and becomes a Youtube superstar in his own right.
I think this whole kung fu thing is pretty cool, but it's hard to find really good examples of it, so I'm always rooting for the next person who can get the goods that only come through hard work and go public.
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