littlepanda wrote:In this video Scott meredith says yiquan was originally all about "internal energy" i.e. qi and other non-physical energy but because of cultural revolution Wang xiangzhai had to delete references to qi and other stuff. so todays yiquan practitioners no longer cultivate internal energy.
In this video Scott shows one yiquan exercise, friction-step for developing internal energy.
A: [Wang Xiangzhai’s disciple, now deceased] Ao Shi-peng once told me an anecdote that took place while China was in the thrall of ‘Qigong mania’ [in the 80s]. Ao asked M Yao about the ‘fa gong’ [external release of qi], and asked whether Yiquan could produce this kind of ability too. At first, M Yao was reluctant to talk about this kind of thing, but eventually, seeing that Ao wasn’t going to drop it, sighed and raised his hand. Bear in mind that Ao and M Yao were separated by a dining table at this point.
M Yao lifted his hand and made a very small fa li motion towards Ao’s face. Ao felt as if a large mass of paper had hit his forehead, it scared him witless. Have you ever come across this ability?
C: M Yao was always reluctant to talk about this kind of thing, even in his books he denied it existed in Yiquan. His intent was not to lead Yiquan students astray. Actually, the practice of Yiquan can develop this ability. M Yao told me about it in 1978. That year, in order to study Yiquan with M Yao, I took sick leave dozens of times. I gave up a lot of other things to practice Yiquan.
A: What exactly are the details he was talking about?
C: The details he was referring to were feints and ‘tells’ – both with the hands and feet, and mentally too. Of course, there’s also shen guang long zhao (‘enveloping aura’?). When you have these elements at your command things get more detailed, richer and fuller. M Yao taught me how to spar under different circumstances: what to do when you’ve got a lot of room, when you’re cramped, when your opponent comes at you full throttle, or how to force him to make a move if he hangs back. Before 1981, M Yao pushed and sparred with me a lot.
After 1981, every so often, he would push or spar with me, then explain what was going on inside. There was a period when, in order to train my footwork, shenfa and ability to spot attacking opportunities, M Yao decreed that, in sparring, I was only allowed to launch 3 punches in each 3-minute round.
A: When M Yao pushed and sparred with you, were you really trying to beat him?
C: Yes. As soon as I detected an opportunity, I would fa li, hoping to launch the old guy for once (chuckles). The folly of youth, I guess. As I launched my attack, M Yao would contract, leading me to feel as if I had crushed something really heavy. The moment I had this feeling, it was replaced by a feeling of that ‘thing’ having been blown away by the wind.
everything wrote:That seems very plausible.
Get rid of ancient TCM things. Modernize. Ugh.
Next they’ll only talk fascia and keto
Except those translations from Andrezj mention energy plenty of times
"because of cultural revolution Wang xiangzhai had to delete references to qi and other stuff. so todays yiquan practitioners no longer cultivate internal energy."
The point being that the whole concept of IMA is relatively recent
littlepanda wrote:In this video Scott meredith says yiquan was originally all about "internal energy" i.e. qi and other non-physical energy but because of cultural revolution Wang xiangzhai had to delete references to qi and other stuff. so todays yiquan practitioners no longer cultivate internal energy.
In this video Scott shows one yiquan exercise, friction-step for developing internal energy.
In 1956 he was the first and only one in Beijing to establish a Qigong hospital.
http://hunyuaninstitute.com/huandhunyuan.pdf So It would rather seem to have been as that the ‘old’ways(“Qigong”) before the Communist took power where not for everyone, that it was an secretive practice just for a chosen few in the past. And therefore a lot of fantasies, speculations and delusional beliefs came around, and also unscrupulous teachers with no true knowledge.This symposium ordered by the Chinese government had the goal of “revealing all secrets” and making them available to the people. At that time the newly communist China has slightly shifted its attitude from ‘banning the old’ to ‘using the old knowledge to benefit the people’.
But however Meredith mention the cultural revolution as an force that tried to erase the Qi from China, and that ‘revolution’ occurred between 1966-1976, and Wang Xiangzhai passed away in 1964. So Meredith’s claim that Wang had to hide anything of substance is not true.
GrahamB wrote:The process of "erasing the Qi from China", happened way before the Cultural Revolution.
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