Strange wrote:you did say before that you have taiji lineage, correct?
dspyrido wrote:johnwang wrote:dspyrido wrote:Heavy weights few repetitions with exhaustion vs light weights many repetitions with focus on keeping it going?
I have always worked on my weight equipment with 60 reps. I have never done and don't believe in few reps.dspyrido wrote:Practising a move 20 times intensely vs 1000 carefully?
I have suggested to drill XY Pi Quan 1,000 times non-stop within 45 minutes. When I do foot sweep. I drill it at least 100 times non-stop.dspyrido wrote:Training hard with a partner intensely then when the body is sore training to recuperate yet still keep learning by doing it slowly?
I have always believed you should only spent 75% of your energy in training. You feel you want to do more, but you force yourself not to, so you will expect next day training.dspyrido wrote:Throwing someone by picking them up vs. luring and tripping them?
Even "internal" guy will need to develop lifting ability in case he has to do some hard labor to make a living.
A: Sweet heart, you need to take the garbage can out tonight.
B: That garbage can is too heavy. I'm not suppose to use brute force to lift that garbage can. It's against my "internal" believe.
A:
The point was to be aware of spectrum of training and to acknowledge it goes to two extremes - hence the description internal vs. external.
I think that awareness & training at both ends is what provides a much greater ability.
Say your garbage is 200kg. If you've never done a 200kg lift then it will be a problem.
But you might also be called on by your wife to carry 200 1kg bags one at a time.
Aside from divorcing her training at both ends of the spectrum means being able to do them. This is the point of awareness of internal/external and the way it can be used to describe motion vs. stillness, intense cardio vs. controlled limited oxygen intake and many other areas, building one limb vs. coordinating the whole body etc. etc.
Looking at your points - guess what - you're more of an internal guy than you like to accept. Again it just depends on the view of internal vs. external but on a spectrum you are 2/3 of the way in the internal realm than the external with so much repetition. Sure you might refuse to do standing posture but you are definitely not gassing yourself to push your cardio to a sport specific 3-5 minute rounds as intensely as possible. You are building through controlled repetition.
johnwang wrote:cloudz wrote:if you're talking any kind of physical technique however refined, you're barking up the wrong tree.
internal and external is analogous to esoteric and exoteric in western vernacular … And, it stands on its own, it's (internal/esoteric) cultivation.
it doesn't need martial arts..johnwang wrote:If you train how to fight such as … do you really care about whether you are training is "internal" or not?
My question is not whether "internal" needs MA or not. My question is whether MA needs "internal" or not.
Dmitri wrote:johnwang wrote: My question is whether MA needs "internal" or not.
It doesn't
C.J.W. wrote:
Like I already mentioned in a previous post, there are many way to be non-telegraphing, and not all are created equal. While external styles may achieve it through timing, distancing, and speed, IMA focuses on "abnormal" movements and muscle recruitment that change the way you maintain balance, shift weight, and generate power.
Master Chen Zhonghua of practical method Taiji has many good clips that illustrate how these abnormal movements can be applied in stand-up grappling. (I saw one years ago where he shows how to do a foot sweep by moving only one foot while the rest of the stays still, but can't seem to find it anymore.)
D_Glenn wrote:In China, I’m pretty sure all the good, fighty Internal Martial Arts schools also practice Shuai Jiao. I did some SJ with my teacher. In Beijing his Bagua students cross train SJ at a school that has the facilities to practice it.
I learned some SJ from Luo Dexiu.
Maybe that’s what this thread is about
cloudz wrote:there's no such things as internal principles
there are only principles as applied to technique
silly
johnwang wrote:But many people assume that soft, sticky, yield, follow, sink, borrow force, body unification, … are defined as "internal" principle and external guys don't understand it, or use it. I just try to point out that all those principles are in SC already.
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