Franklin wrote:the first stone that they restored with the crane on it was pretty awesome looking...
the tiger pig and the other crane stone - i would rate as so/so...
did you guys get to take a look in the cave that they used for cultivation retreats?
Bhassler wrote:I have to admit to being a bit disappointed the crying crane guys weren't more fighty. Eric Ling, who was featured prominently in the documentary "Needle Through Brick" (filmed in Malaysia), seems to be quite the scrapper, and I know he studied crying crane in addition to some other arts. I had a brief exposure to it myself from another practitioner, and could tell right away there was something missing from a martial standpoint, so it would have been cool to get a real glimpse of it. I thought Su Yin Han showed a bit more, and it seemed like Zheng Qin Yong could have shown more, had there been more time or had he known you better.
chenyaolong wrote:
I dont think the cave has been used in a long time. I think the nun was refering to the distant past.
Yea, it would be nice if they had some funding to restore the stones properly.
chenyaolong wrote:
Zheng was probably the most conservative, he didn't wanna show much.... which is understandable as we were only there for like half an hour. I've been talking to his student from Moldova, and he said Zheng takes a very long time to warm up to people.... .
Franklin wrote:chenyaolong wrote:
I dont think the cave has been used in a long time. I think the nun was refering to the distant past.
Yea, it would be nice if they had some funding to restore the stones properly.
yeah-- i did not think they are using it now
just thought it would be cool to get a glimpse of the cave they used to use for stuff like that..
one of my teachers lived and trained at a taoist temple in loufushan- before the cultural revolution
he mentioned to me that - they had places for people to do retreats for defined periods of time- where they dont see anyone-
(not sure if it was full darkness or not)
just get food passed to them - and pass out the empties and the fulls...
Franklin
taiwandeutscher wrote:chenyaolong wrote:
Zheng was probably the most conservative, he didn't wanna show much.... which is understandable as we were only there for like half an hour. I've been talking to his student from Moldova, and he said Zheng takes a very long time to warm up to people.... .
Not surprised here! There are numerous very secretive Crane groups down in southern Taiwan. They don't show or tell much in front of outsiders, and they ask horrendous amounts of tuition money, even from their brethren and fellow Taiwanese.
chenyaolong wrote:
They still have those kinds of places in China, just much further away from prying eyes.
Franklin wrote:they were telling me they have friends and family back home who are into taoist stuff
and every so often they will run across a mountain taoists that no one knows how old they are and just live out in the wilderness...
and other weird stories
the gist was -- there is a lot of stuff still practiced -- its just not in the public eye
chenyaolong wrote:Bhassler wrote:I have to admit to being a bit disappointed the crying crane guys weren't more fighty. Eric Ling, who was featured prominently in the documentary "Needle Through Brick" (filmed in Malaysia), seems to be quite the scrapper, and I know he studied crying crane in addition to some other arts. I had a brief exposure to it myself from another practitioner, and could tell right away there was something missing from a martial standpoint, so it would have been cool to get a real glimpse of it. I thought Su Yin Han showed a bit more, and it seemed like Zheng Qin Yong could have shown more, had there been more time or had he known you better.
I thought Yu Dan Qiu was pretty good on the whole, I mean some of his applications were a bit contrived, but he definitely had very strong structure and decent power. If you watch episode 1 of Jesse's series, there's a bit more footage of him.
Zheng was probably the most conservative, he didn't wanna show much.... which is understandable as we were only there for like half an hour. I've been talking to his student from Moldova, and he said Zheng takes a very long time to warm up to people.... if you search Zheng Qing Yong White Crane on Youtube, there are a load of videos in Russian about him. Should paint a better picture of him.
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