Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

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Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Strange on Sat May 16, 2020 2:33 am


... or how one make tcma ineffective
天官指星 单对月 风摆荷叶 影成双

岳武穆王以枪为拳, 六合形意李门世根, 形意拳五行为先, 论身法六合为首,少揽闲事心田静, 多读拳谱武艺精 - 李洛能 (形意拳谱)
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Re: Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Overlord on Sat May 16, 2020 4:57 pm

Wu, Ma and Dongbei Baji each has it’s own flavor.
AFAIC, I look at :
1, Shoulder rolling to cover neck and head 藏頭勢, 項桿勁 for both defense and attack
2, Foot work with grinding force 碾銼勁 personally I don’t think sink stomping is good for the knee/ankle
For me these two is the basics.
A misconception of TCMA is that you be successful with first hit,this is not true, opponents move around with distance and timing is off 90% of the time. This is why Baji added Pigua to improve upon on footwork and long reach and Pigua added Baji to enhance the explosive power. But one need to separate for student these two when passing down knowledge.
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Re: Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Strange on Sun May 17, 2020 6:32 am

Thanks for sharing, Andy.
I also do not think stomping is good for the legs

Let me share one more vid for what ppl like to do now:
use kungfu terms to make long essays, theoretical composition that lead to more nonsensical discussions

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天官指星 单对月 风摆荷叶 影成双

岳武穆王以枪为拳, 六合形意李门世根, 形意拳五行为先, 论身法六合为首,少揽闲事心田静, 多读拳谱武艺精 - 李洛能 (形意拳谱)
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Re: Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Overlord on Sun May 17, 2020 5:47 pm

Thanks for sharing Strange. Yes, practice is essential.
I particularly love Master Hu’s concept of distraction, I guess he is influenced by one of Taiwan’s Baji school Master Zheng.

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Re: Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Strange on Mon May 18, 2020 7:53 pm

Andy, i heard from Pang Chao in one of his vids, he shared what his XY teacher shared.
I thought it's very interesting:

"东西练对了都一个样 东西练错了千差万别"
"The thing if trained correctly looks all the same; if the thing is trained wrongly there are thousand variations and ten thousand differences"

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天官指星 单对月 风摆荷叶 影成双

岳武穆王以枪为拳, 六合形意李门世根, 形意拳五行为先, 论身法六合为首,少揽闲事心田静, 多读拳谱武艺精 - 李洛能 (形意拳谱)
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Re: Surface Understanding Vs Real Understanding

Postby Overlord on Tue May 19, 2020 6:38 am

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