PS, nebulizing peroxide is such an obviously horrible idea, I hope it has only been floated on this forum in jest. Yes, it will destroy the cells that the Covid virus invades. Those are, of course, healthy and necessary cells in your lungs.
everything wrote:I pointed out the news, but not in jest. If it's a serious option, I'd hope for serious clinical studies, and not just one article by one doctor somewhere.
h2o2 is also produced by the human body and is detected in some drinks such as tea and instant coffee and in urine. it seems to be produced to protect the body.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/gener ... nce-system
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9300021979
obviously none of that means to ingest, inject, etc
The problem is, they will usually put you on the ventilator when you are completely out of it.
The next step prior to being placed on mechanical ventilation is endotracheal intubation.
Non-invasive ventilation refers to ventilatory support without tracheal intubation. This can be used as a first step in patients who require some ventilatory support and who are not profoundly hypoxaemic. Ventilation through a nasal or face mask may avoid the need for intubation, especially in exacerbations of chronic obstructive airways disease. Some patients with chronic ventilatory failure rely on long term non-invasive ventilation. It may also have a place during weaning from conventional ventilation. External negative pressure ventilation, historically provided by an “iron lung,” is now provided by a cuirass system.
It's all too much for me. Ima jest gonna sit down and take my hydrochloroquine and chase it with some beer.
Steve James wrote:Sure, it can be done, but not long term (iinm). It's certainly true that not all patients who get put on ventilators need to be. A doctor can make that call. Then again, most people who are treated for covid-19 don't go on ventilators anyway. My point was only that ventilators don't kill people; people who are dying are put on ventilators.
If the problem is breathing, for ex., why doesn't just giving oxygen work? Wouldn't that be the choice before ventilation? If oxygen isn't working, what does a doctor do? Hey, I totally agree that being put on a ventilator should be avoided. It's the figuring out what to do instead that's the doctor's problem. I also agree that the more experience doctors have treating patients with the disease, the more likely it is that they will recognize the patients who do not need ventilation. As you pointed out, doctors in hard-hit areas are looking for alternatives.
I don't want to be put on a ventilator for any reason, frankly. Otoh, I'm not going to tell my doctor not to do it if necessary.
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