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Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Trick on Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:41 am

Years ago I learned the 83 form of Wu TJQ, this was in Beijing. However this form seem to count to 108 in southern parts of China.

Anyone here that got a video link(Chinese tubes) to an good 108 form performance?

Many thanks.
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby grzegorz on Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:53 pm

This is my favorite. It is a modified version. I think it was modified for video but it is all there. Well almost. Some of it is removed but seventy percent or more is there. It would be nice to find a full length video from someone like Wu Ying Hua but I yet to find something online as valuable as this.

https://youtu.be/RGkqYKagN-U
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Trick on Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:06 pm

Thanks, but I can’t see YouTube or Youtu.be, so I asked for an on the Chinese tubes video. You got a name of the performer in your linked vid ?
The videos I found so far(although not searching too hard) I feel not up to par with the “northern” Wu I experienced(I’m not claiming here anything as “north is better than south”)
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:07 pm

https://youtu.be/OC6yqd9XAUM

The old E R sun form
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:17 pm

Here is Chen tin Huangs uncle
I trained with 4 teachers who come from this line
He is my favourite a pity the film isn't better

https://youtu.be/HxsfZUuLl_Q
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby grzegorz on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:45 pm

Trick wrote:Thanks, but I can’t see YouTube or Youtu.be, so I asked for an on the Chinese tubes video. You got a name of the performer in your linked vid ?
The videos I found so far(although not searching too hard) I feel not up to par with the “northern” Wu I experienced(I’m not claiming here anything as “north is better than south”)


I hear you. I have heard both sides. I don't really think it is a big deal just different variations on the same theme.

I like my Shanghai Wu.

The video I posted is of Wu Ying Hua. It is in black and white and has 2/3 of the form as I recall. There is another video from that time of her husband Ma Yue Liang doing the fast form. If you find one the other should be close by.
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:15 am

108 are the steps
88 are the postures
GST 4 postures 1 step
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Trick on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:37 am

grzegorz wrote:
Trick wrote:Thanks, but I can’t see YouTube or Youtu.be, so I asked for an on the Chinese tubes video. You got a name of the performer in your linked vid ?
The videos I found so far(although not searching too hard) I feel not up to par with the “northern” Wu I experienced(I’m not claiming here anything as “north is better than south”)


I hear you. I have heard both sides. I don't really think it is a big deal just different variations on the same theme.

I like my Shanghai Wu.

The video I posted is of Wu Ying Hua. It is in black and white and has 2/3 of the form as I recall. There is another video from that time of her husband Ma Yue Liang doing the fast form. If you find one the other should be close by.

Ah, thanks, i found that video(I guess) now on youku . It’s numbered 83 just as I learned in Beijing, and basically the same .....yes the performance in the vid is very good.....
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Giles on Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:40 am

wayne hansen wrote:Here is Chen tin Huangs uncle
I trained with 4 teachers who come from this line
He is my favourite a pity the film isn't better

https://youtu.be/HxsfZUuLl_Q


But still mostly good enough to get an impression of the movement quality, what he's doing with his core and how it transmits to the periphery. :D

Interesting to compare with the Wu Ying Hua video. I like both, but the feeling is different in some respects.

PS. I think you mean Cheng Tin Hung's uncle. ;)
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:32 pm

I did my phone went to predictive text I should have proofread it
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Trick on Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:22 am

Trick wrote:
grzegorz wrote:
Trick wrote:Thanks, but I can’t see YouTube or Youtu.be, so I asked for an on the Chinese tubes video. You got a name of the performer in your linked vid ?
The videos I found so far(although not searching too hard) I feel not up to par with the “northern” Wu I experienced(I’m not claiming here anything as “north is better than south”)


I hear you. I have heard both sides. I don't really think it is a big deal just different variations on the same theme.

I like my Shanghai Wu.

The video I posted is of Wu Ying Hua. It is in black and white and has 2/3 of the form as I recall. There is another video from that time of her husband Ma Yue Liang doing the fast form. If you find one the other should be close by.

Ah, thanks, i found that video(I guess) now on youku . It’s numbered 83 just as I learned in Beijing, and basically the same .....yes the performance in the vid is very good.....

Ok the vid I initially found was not in black and white footage and she performs in an indoor stadium seemingly, that performance a liked and is in tune with what I learned in Beijing...but then I found “the” black and white footage performance, that form is different, some moves excluded and foot work/turning different, a simplified exercise which wouldn’t train some physical coreaspects even if practiced over a long time.
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby Trick on Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:30 am

wayne hansen wrote:Here is Chen tin Huangs uncle
I trained with 4 teachers who come from this line
He is my favourite a pity the film isn't better

https://youtu.be/HxsfZUuLl_Q

Wayne, do you have a link to chines tubes such as youku of this vid ? Maybe a name of the performer(in mandarin)?
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:34 pm

Sorry I don't
The spelling is quite different in pinyin
I'll see if I can find it
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby marvin8 on Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:31 pm

Trick wrote:
wayne hansen wrote:Here is Chen tin Huangs uncle
I trained with 4 teachers who come from this line
He is my favourite a pity the film isn't better

https://youtu.be/HxsfZUuLl_Q

Wayne, do you have a link to chines tubes such as youku of this vid ? Maybe a name of the performer(in mandarin)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheng_Wing_Kwong:

Cheng Wing Kwong (Zheng Rongguang) (Chin: 鄭榮光, 1903–1967) was a disciple (Tudi) of Wu Jianquan, the founder of Wu Style Taijiquan.

https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQwOTkxOTU3Ng==.html
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Re: Wu taijiquan 108 form

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:15 pm

https://youtu.be/3giFDj1bee4
Here he is doing the sword with the pinyin version of his name
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