Overlord wrote:Drugs usage appears common in MMA. ...
I was trying to find Roy’s interview clip but can’t find it now.
Overlord wrote:It seems the reason UFC turned blind to the situation is because drugs enhanced fighter can prolong the fight,
the fighters seems have more strength with wrestling and tackle,
but as Mark pointed out, it does not enhance the striker game.
GrahamB wrote:Pro MMA athletes getting Busted for tainted samples is quite common. So it may be common practice taking them but it’s also quite common they get caught (in the ufc).
GrahamB wrote:Google is your friend.
Good old Uncle Dana just said “This is not a career”, well then stop drug testing them like they’re Olympic athletes! Fighting makes no economic sense.
jaime_g wrote:I know many fighters that use steroids and can pass "normal" drug testings. It depends on how often and how deep they are being tested.
jaime_g wrote:At lower professional levels it's enough to know when are you going to compete and get tested. They can planify their cycles around that. That is happening at low level competitions. Add more money and you get better drugs and coachs that can make magic happen.
UFC fighters getting caught is just because of sloppy planification or random testing, not a real problem if there is enough money around, but as Graham said, the average guys arent making enough to afford more complex cycles or hiring experts.
jaime_g wrote:UFC fighters getting caught is just because of sloppy planification or random testing, not a real problem if there is enough money around, but as Graham said, the average guys arent making enough to afford more complex cycles or hiring experts.
dspyrido wrote:The argument can go both ways. How do we know the numbers are accurately catching the number of people using various PEDS? How many are being missed? eg how long did it take to catch Lance Armstrong? ...
There's also cheating on tests. USADA has a good reputation but in the end money can change a lot of opinions.
dspyrido wrote:Anyway it was mentioned Google's your friend but here's the first link I got:
https://www.scrapdigest.com/full-list-fighters-records-usada-drug-testing/3801/2/
dspyrido wrote:Now for heresay as I have friends who have used PEDs - they are not all the same and not linear. Many people might say certain athletes are genetic freaks gifted with 22" necks but who is to they are genetic freaks who did a serious bought of PEDs then came off them to get clean to pass tests. The muscle once created is not destroyed and can continue to be trained. PEDs are not just a sudden dose of courage but come in all shapes and sizes.
marvin8 wrote:PEDs play a more important role in pure speed, strength and endurance sports (e.g., track & field, weightlifting, cycling) than MMA.
dspyrido wrote:marvin8 wrote:PEDs play a more important role in pure speed, strength and endurance sports (e.g., track & field, weightlifting, cycling) than MMA.
Are you saying in a mma fight speed, strength and endurance is not important?
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