dspyrido wrote:
Or watch someone who knows how to palm strike:
Also wc is not good for these sorts of strikes as it lacks the body weight support. Bagua is much better ... when it's done right.
Trick wrote:Wasn’t Bas Rutten into shoot fighting in Japan. Palm strikes(slap?) is the main way to strike in Shoot fighting ? Probably borrowed it from Sumo wrestling ?
Climb-up wrote:I like it!
The Bagua guy is sparring with his coach, who is presumably a better fighter all around, and not just holding his own but actually making Dewey change his approach and stance and start thinking about things differently.
Obviously he didn’t completely dominate,and he wasn’t able to sneak around behind Dewey, but that seems like it’s to be expected if your fighting with someone as good, or better, than you.
I also liked the discussion of the light touch on the arm, so as not to generate resistance but to be able to track and listen, and how the first two guys (who originally get they had no power with open hands) were surprised that Lin Ji’s palm strikes actually hurt!
That palm strike throw at the end was pretty sweet too.
Trick wrote:Wasn’t Bas Rutten into shoot fighting in Japan. Palm strikes(slap?) is the main way to strike in Shoot fighting ? Probably borrowed it from Sumo wrestling ?
marvin8 wrote:
Ramsey was sparring because they were "genuinely curious how it would play out." And, Lin explained and seem to use the concepts/tactics well. However, here is a more competitive Bagua vs MMA match:
marvin8 wrote:Lomachenko uses some of the same tactics (a testament to their effectiveness), although open palm striking is against boxing's rules:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl3nVafPJoY
Climb-up wrote:Not that Bagua will probably ever be standard in mma! Lol, but this seems great.
Climb-up wrote:Thats the point that the Bagua guy was making at the end of the video right?
Climb-up wrote:..Bad Rutten was the first to figure out how to pull his fingers all the way back and strike with the heel of the palm in the same way as a fist;...
dspyrido wrote:Ask any experienced bouncer the power of a slap and listen to their stories.
Trip wrote:Climb-up wrote:..Bad Rutten was the first to figure out how to pull his fingers all the way back and strike with the heel of the palm in the same way as a fist;...
I think this is just a phrasing issue.
Bas was a bad man in his day, who was more than a handful to deal with, and deserves fight respect!
But the First to strike with the heel of the palm?!
That's a bit of a stretch.
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