thats an mistake, the wtestling part if its implemented in the TJQ training curriculum is at intermediate level. at more advanced level its no grabs but perhaps just a light guiding touch by wich any uncooperative thought cannot manifest]Looking at this thread might give someone the impression that TC is just SJ
There are no contests in the Art of Peace. A true warrior is invincible because he or she contests with nothing. Defeat means to defeat the mind of contention that we harbor within.
Morihei Ueshiba
Trick wrote: the wtestling part if its implemented in the TJQ training curriculum is at intermediate level. at more advanced level its no grabs but perhaps just a light guiding touch by wich any uncooperative thought cannot manifest
wayne hansen wrote:Tai chi is not SJ done slowly it is correct combat practiced in a relaxed manner...
johnwang wrote:This is why GM Chang said, "Let's Taiji be Taiji and let SC be SC. If you try to integrate both, you will make Taiji people unhappy."
In another forum I suggest to integrate Taiji PH with WC sticky hand. My suggestion make many WC guys unhappy.
dspyrido wrote:Learning to yield is not possible if a student always rushes up to grab.
As I wrote, the wrestling game(grabs giving and taking)if implemented in TJQ is at the intermediate level. ....Suitable for those eager to compete......johnwang wrote:Trick wrote: the wtestling part if its implemented in the TJQ training curriculum is at intermediate level. at more advanced level its no grabs but perhaps just a light guiding touch by wich any uncooperative thought cannot manifest
This is why GM Chang said, "Let's Taiji be Taiji and let SC be SC. If you try to integrate both, you will make Taiji people unhappy."
In another forum I suggest to integrate Taiji PH with WC sticky hand. My suggestion make many WC guys unhappy.
Why there is difficulty to integrate Taiji and SC? In SC you have to give before you can take. Most Taiji people are not willing to give.
johnwang wrote:Here is the conflict.
I can also say that to learn how to yield too early can weak your tiger spirit (needed for SC) - act like a tiger and try to eat your opponent alive.
This is the tiger spirit. GM Chang liked him very much for his aggressiveness.
robert wrote:johnwang wrote:Here is the conflict.
I can also say that to learn how to yield too early can weak your tiger spirit (needed for SC) - act like a tiger and try to eat your opponent alive.
This is the tiger spirit. GM Chang liked him very much for his aggressiveness.
Tigers are ambush predators. They prefer to wait for their prey to come as close as possible before they make a move to kill. (Carolina Tiger Rescue.) That is taijiquan strategy.
The spirit is like a cat pouncing on a mouse. (Taijiquan Classics.)
FWIW.
sound cool , but it’s just machismo jargong.....Doubt many gong fu masters actually studied animals behavior. act like a tiger and try to eat your opponent alive.
wayne hansen wrote:Those of you who have knocked someone out will know it is effortless
That is what real tai chi training is about
Softness is the running away in boxing it is called roll with the punches
This is what Huangs 7 point push is about
As well as 7 yields it also contains 7 punches
Every boxing punch can be found in the pushes
I am talking about how it was done in the 70's not how I have seen it done in recent years
Tai chi is not SJ done slowly it is correct combat practiced in a relaxed manner
The 88 move San shou two man form contains a lot of SJ type moves plus advanced fighting strategy
Sadly most people do it as a dance very few practicing the solo forms and if they do they use the stepping from the two man form,the solo stepping differs
Most don't do the San shou for the four weapons ,these give further ways to apply energy
What is contained in the weapons is why my Kali teacher became my long term tai chi student
I remember showing my Tunisian knife teacher how the knife applied to the empty hand San shou forms
He was blown away and wanted me to show his teacher
I knew his teacher and wasn't interested
Most comments here sadly show what a sallow knowledge most people have of real tai chi
If I applied the throws of tai chi like the videos here I would chide myself for my lack of skill
The fu wing Fei clips come from a video of the 24 step that I have had since the 70's
There are a lot of better things on this video especially some of the olf films of all the major styles of tai chi
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