windwalker wrote: It is quite strange at times the ones that can make it work don't seem to really care about proving they can do so....guess they dont have to.... they know.
marvin8 wrote:windwalker wrote: It is quite strange at times the ones that can make it work don't seem to really care about proving they can do so....guess they dont have to.... they know.
If they haven't proven themselves, how do you know they can "make it work?"
They know what? (If the meant sarcasm, then I agree.)
I don't think that you understand. For various reasons, the skilled traditional fighters in China don't fight in competitions. They fight people behind closed doors, in parks, on the streets, work as body guards, etc. China is a different planet and everything is different
Quigga wrote:In simple terms, there are people who proved themselves in other venues using IMA.
windwalker wrote:China is a big place, with many people, people who are known as fighters are known as such for a reason.
Quigga wrote:You are right Marvin. I have presented weak arguments as to why IMA is not seen in MMA. Anecdotes are not enough. Will come back later.
marvin8 wrote:
There are mobsters, gangs and people all over the world who kill each other in various venues. However, that does not prove they have superior hand-to-hand fighting skills.
Who are these known fighters? How did you determine they are superior fighters?
windwalker wrote:marvin8 wrote:
There are mobsters, gangs and people all over the world who kill each other in various venues. However, that does not prove they have superior hand-to-hand fighting skills.
Who are these known fighters? How did you determine they are superior fighters?
your evaluation of superior h2h is predicated on what happens in a ring.
marvin8 wrote:Who are these known fighters? How did you determine they are superior fighters?
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marvin8 wrote:
Before asking more questions please elaborate on your statements by answering the questions:marvin8 wrote:Who are these known fighters? How did you determine they are superior fighters?
windwalker wrote:marvin8 wrote:
Before asking more questions please elaborate on your statements by answering the questions:marvin8 wrote:Who are these known fighters? How did you determine they are superior fighters?
All Teachers I've met proved their art to those training with them. ...
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