johnwang wrote:What can solo form raining offer you? IMO, it can offer you the "foundation" such as:
- flexibility.
- balance.
- body unification.
- body alignment.
- ...
In the following clips. both have very good control of their bodies. This kind of ability can only be obtained from the solo form training.
... Do you agree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLnVHNG ... e=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yXnPM3 ... e=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4wK6a ... e=youtu.be
So instead of jumping from station to station in a sweaty gym(bag section, then to shadow boxing mirror section, then to strength(weight) training section then to (just)two person sparring section), etc.) you can just find a nice place in the park and do your Taiji form........get all + more in one. No. You can also obtain those attributes by: doing part(s) of the form, shadowboxing, solo drills, heavy bag, strength & conditioning, plus partner drills, technical sparring, etc.
Trick wrote:So instead of jumping from station to station in a sweaty gym(bag section, then to shadow boxing mirror section, then to strength(weight) training section then to (just)two person sparring section), etc.) you can just find a nice place in the park and do your Taiji form........get all + more in one. No. You can also obtain those attributes by: doing part(s) of the form, shadowboxing, solo drills, heavy bag, strength & conditioning, plus partner drills, technical sparring, etc.
Partly joking partly serious here.....
I don’t know what forms Zhang Weili training(did train) but TJQ I’m sure he did not..... Doing part of a form can create less sweat, specialize and save time versus doing the whole form. (e.g., Zhang Weili).
since I Here focus on the TJQ form, I must remind you that TJQ is not a sport/game, it’s serious stuff... You don't need to "jump from station to station." You can do them at separate times. Doing part of a form can create less sweat, specialize and save time versus doing the whole form. S & C doesn't have to be (weight). It can be mobility, stretching, agility, balance, plyometrics, etc. Drilling attributes in various contexts (e.g., dynamic) can develop stronger attributes than just doing your form (e.g., Zhang Weili).
sports develop attributes fine without doing forms.
Trick wrote:I don’t know what forms Zhang Weili training(did train) but TJQ I’m sure he did not....marvin8 wrote:. Doing part of a form can create less sweat, specialize and save time versus doing the whole form. (e.g., Zhang Weili).
johnwang wrote:... This kind of ability can only be obtained from the solo form training.
Trick wrote:rhe UFC ! well then i understand shes not a TJQ practitioner(had no idea who Zhang Weili is),that would be a waste of time practise for her.....as i wrote, TJQ is not a sport. The great abilities harnessed from TJQ practice is for outside any sport and game venues.....
this is your writingmarvin8 wrote:Trick wrote:rhe UFC ! well then i understand shes not a TJQ practitioner(had no idea who Zhang Weili is),that would be a waste of time practise for her.....as i wrote, TJQ is not a sport. The great abilities harnessed from TJQ practice is for outside any sport and game venues.....
You are the only one who brought up the subject of TJQ/sport in this thread. I was referring to johnwang's OP and Long Fist forms videos. Normally, johnwang is about ability in combat/fighting.
you mention sport, and referring to an UFC participant(Zhang Weili),....then Im saying forms practiceis I not sport and it is not intended to be a method of preparation for entering competition. You don't need to "jump from station to station." You can do them at separate times. Doing part of a form can create less sweat, specialize and save time versus doing the whole form. S & C doesn't have to be (weight). It can be mobility, stretching, agility, balance, plyometrics, etc. Drilling attributes in various contexts (e.g., dynamic) can develop stronger attributes than just doing your form (e.g., Zhang Weili).
Shuai Jiao, judo, sanda, MMA, boxing, wrestling, muay thai, and other combat sports develop attributes fine without doing forms. [
Trick wrote:you mention sport, and referring to an UFC participant(Zhang Weili),....then Im saying forms practiceis I not sport and it is not intended to be a method of preparation for entering competition
johnwang wrote:- flexibility.
- balance.
- body unification.
- body alignment.
- ...
This kind of ability can only be obtained from the solo form training.
marvin8 wrote:[
You may want to start your own thread about the "purpose of forms." I believe that is a different topic
Trick wrote:marvin8 wrote:[
You may want to start your own thread about the "purpose of forms." I believe that is a different topic
but that would be spot on the topic.........OK, i will stop annoy you here, my next post in this thread may hold my expertise on what forms may offer you
Trick wrote:you mention sport, and referring to an UFC participant(Zhang Weili),....then Im saying forms practiceis I not sport and it is not intended to be a method of preparation for entering competition
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