Trick wrote:“Safe targeting” what/where is that ?
Finny wrote:Trick wrote:“Safe targeting” what/where is that ?
It is what it says. In kendo, the practitioner scores a point when they hit safe (armoured) targets - the top of the wrist, the top of the head and the middle of the ribcage. If one were fighting in armour, these would not be ideal targets. I agree with Bhassler re the op
MaartenSFS wrote:Weapons fencing can be done fairly realistically if realism is reflected in the ruleset and the weapons aren't too light.
Bhassler wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:Weapons fencing can be done fairly realistically if realism is reflected in the ruleset and the weapons aren't too light.
Depends on what you mean by realism. The kind of sword fighting you show might work in the context of an unarmored duel-- which is perfectly legit, as there were long swaths in history where that was a real thing. But to add in traditional Japanese swordsmanship, for example, doesn't make much sense. Japanese swordsmanship was developed in a very specific historical and cultural context, and the arts themselves don't make a lot of sense in the above context. Same is true of different schools of CMA. Fighting in a melee against soldiers or bandits (which, realistically, were often the same thing) with horses, armor, military weapons, etc. is something very different. Just grabbing random moves out of an old sword manual doesn't end up with much of historical or practical significance. I don't know what your lineage is or the context it's meant to function in, but I can say that in my opinion it doesn't show much that's relevant to something like Chen taiji. Maybe more relevant to Yang style, or any of the other, later derivatives. I would expect that Xinyi would have more battlefield type sword work. I'm not sure about Xingyi, as I believe that's a later iteration, even though the mother art is quite old.
If you did want to go the unarmored dueling route, squaring off against a skilled opponent with rapier or one of the more modern European sabre arts might prove a stiffer test than someone trying to shoehorn a battlefield art into a dueling format.
Aside from historical context, simply tapping or hitting someone with a sword doesn't mean they're debilitated or are going to stop. People have been known to fight on for quite a while with fatal injuries-- long enough to kill an unwary opponent, for sure.
And, of course, the physics of steel are just different than the physics of wood, plastic, or foam (or some combination of the three).
MaartenSFS wrote:
Swordsmanship is not something that is very difficult to understand...
Finny wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:
Swordsmanship is not something that is very difficult to understand...
Nothing is very difficult to understand if you make it up yourself.
. Art? What art? The fine art of wafting foam sticks at each other's legs like 5 year olds?MaartenSFS wrote:I absolutely agree. One must make the art their own.
MaartenSFS wrote:It may be challenging for those that spend all of their time learning etiquette and worshipping the weapon rather than using it, but getting an arse-kicking is sure to show them the light...
MaartenSFS wrote:Finny wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:
Swordsmanship is not something that is very difficult to understand...
Nothing is very difficult to understand if you make it up yourself.
I absolutely agree. One must make the art their own. It may be challenging for those that spend all of their time learning etiquette and worshipping the weapon rather than using it, but getting an arse-kicking is sure to show them the light...
. The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts..." [Points to sword] "This you can trust./Daddy
Finny wrote:. Art? What art? The fine art of wafting foam sticks at each other's legs like 5 year olds?MaartenSFS wrote:I absolutely agree. One must make the art their own.MaartenSFS wrote:It may be challenging for those that spend all of their time learning etiquette and worshipping the weapon rather than using it, but getting an arse-kicking is sure to show them the light...
I don't really know what you're talking about, but if that's your definition of an 'arse-kicking' I don't see it showing anyone anything.
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