The above clip illustrates the issue I've brought up. The way this two person form is done, neither person has any effect on the other.
johnwang wrote:
Sine you always control one of your opponent's arms, you can concentrate on dealing with his single free arm only. IMO, without using to control one of your opponent's arms principle, a CMA person will fight like a kickboxer.
Ruthlessness (Chan)
Evade (Syim)
Pierce through (Chuen)
Intercept (Jeet)
Method, to the body (physical body? All specific methods as one body. Mind is the master, the main principle.
Application of the method is the mother. Because, what is derived out of oneself is the body. The way to maneuver the body is the method. What is directed towards the enemy is [the] application [of the method].
Therefore, the body, the application, the outside, and the inside are all prevailed by method. Only when one talks (of) method, it is about its body and application. Float a piece of bamboo on water, but [you] cannot make it sink. Throw a pearl on a tray, but you cannot stop it from spinning. The pearl would run left and right like a wheel, being pushed, pulled, let go and drawn.
rojcewiczj wrote:The above clip illustrates the issue I've brought up. The way this two person form is done, neither person has any effect on the other. I don't think that if we simply turn up the speed or aggression or the intent to hit, that these methods will become effective. In fact, I think thats exactly what gets TCMA people destroyed by competitive fighters. Those TCMA people think that if they simply try to hit their opponent they will be effective which is just not the case.
rojcewiczj wrote:Wing Chun people seem to have often made this mistake, where they think chain punching and front kicking will knock people out. It just doesn't work like that.
rojcewiczj wrote:I think those TCMA that degraded into pure striking, are just that, degraded. Striking can work, that is what contemporary boxing, kickboxing, muay thai are for, they are for making striking work on its own terms. Looking at TCMA I find it basically impossible to make the argument, especially to those uninterested in TCMA, that all these methods will help them strike someone from kickboxing/boxing range, if that was the case people would have already caught on to that. There is a simple issue with passing down TCMA skills, in that it sometimes takes years for people to gain real unbalancing/take-down skill, if ever.
johnwang wrote:If you start to teach your student Sanda, how will you start? I'll use the following steps.
1. Use foot sweep to set up another kick.
2. Use kick to set up a jab.
After that, the jab can be changed into a pull followed by a
- cross, or
- hook.
The training is really very simple and straight forward.
I would say that those lama punchs are less effective than western boxing.
That said - I agree with you. I don't think these guys do a lot of sparring or grappling because their distancing is off.
dspyrido wrote:Kicking first requires them to be low telegraphed and fast. Otherwise it's too slow and too predictable. It's not easy for a beginner to get that.
I would start with the hands first and then kick/sweep as entries.
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