GrahamB wrote:Thoughts:
I don't think those hand trapping things actually work like that outside of demos. I'm sure somebody can find a clip of one working somewhere, but that's the point - it's like finding a needle in a haystack.
I put one hand on your arm - then another, then hit you. Yeah right. That'll work. Provided you stand still and let me do it.
Bao wrote:A neck drag works perfectly fine (no mantis hook necessary), it's a very useful technique. At a festival a few years ago, I witnessed a security guard bringing an aggressive spectator down to the ground with the same technique. What he did looked very similar to the first demo. So yes, you can make it work outside a demo, not looking identical to a demo obviously, but adapted to the situation at hand.
Finny wrote:The point is not the neck drag - the point is the 'bridge between the striking art and the throwing art' which obviously refers to the trapping 'bridge', not the grappling neck drag.
Like G, my first thought is yeah, looks good but a perfect example of oft-demo'd techniques that don't actually work when someone tries to actually swing at you.
johnwang wrote:IMO, the praying mantis Mo Pan Shou 磨盘手 can be a powerful link between the striking art and the throwing art. It also serve as an effective "guard opener".
Your thought?
marvin8 wrote:At 1:23, Ramsey says:Ramsey Dewey wrote:Here’s a big mistake a lot of people make with hand fighting. You’ll see in martial arts like wing chun, where people stand toe to toe. And, they start doing all this hand fighting stuff to try to get in there. Nobody stays there in that range. If we’re really fighting and I’m trying to move Eddie’s hands out of the way so I can hit, look he moved (yielded), right? So, I’m going to have to use my jab and my footwork to determine whether or not Eddie is at a range where I can hand fight with him. If he moves away, he’s too far away. If I start reaching for anything (chasing hands) trying to fight this way, he’s going to punch me in the face. I’m dead, right?...
Bao wrote:Nothing says that you have to use the first movements or any similar way to control the arm while striking. IMO, it's the footwork and closing the gap that works as a bridge between striking and throwing. How you keep your hands on your opponents arms or control them has very little to do with this.
Finny wrote:Absolutely, footwork and movement are without a doubt a key element to 'bridging between striking and throwing'.
Subitai wrote:* John then talks about ultimately getting a hand on his opponent’s neck to effect some sort of technique or control.
johnwang wrote:
- How to make your opponent to switch weight from one leg to another?
- How to take advantage on your opponent's weight shifting?
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