. Might not be long till such drugs finds itself on the WADA list........ It's interesting that some people don't seem to have a problem with deliberate infliction of pain and head-bashing of others in a sporting context, but reflexively (and simplistically) recoil from informed discussion of even the research on therapeutic use of psychedelics. People in the fight business seem to find it promising, though:
meeks wrote:well I suffered a very severe concussion recently (got T-bone by a truck... then 2 more crashes within a year, one on the freeway which almost turned my brain to pudding - concussion on top of a concussion is life threatening - I had 3 high speed collision in a 2 year period) which took me out of being able to work for over 2 years - some of you may have noticed my participation on the board had really dropped off, and I had also deleted all my social media accounts and my martial arts websites as I 'went into hibernation mode'. I had to re-learn how to do my job. 2 years ago at this time I was learning to sweep the floor and I had such a bad speech impediment it would take me 30 seconds to say the word 'toast' to a waitress. I had a food schedule provided for me because I was unable to make decisions.
Monday - 2 pieces of toast with peanut butter... that's your 1 meal of the day
Tuesday - instant oatmeal - that's your 1 meal of the day
Wednesday - 2 boiled eggs... if there's more than 1 pot on the stove always use the 1 on the right.
in between meals I slept the majority of the day (par for the course with a severe concussion)
if there was more that 1 flavor of instant oatmeal... uh-oh... I have to make a choice? Back to bed without eating because the idea of making a decision wiped out my energy reserves... I'll try eating again tomorrow - nothing today. That phase lasted about 3 months at its worst point.
I had to join a brain injury support group and got to know people that had been suffering from severe concussions for years - a severe one can be quite life altering. I also witnessed the changes in a few people who began to microdose (such a small amount that its effects are imperceptible). For 1 woman I could see how her speech changed after the first microdose. Over the weeks I saw her condition improve... someone that had been 'stagnant' in her recovery for a few years. After 6 months she was back to work as a writer. I also witnessed someone who had been on anti-depressants for many years ween themselves off of it gradually for 3 months, then continue to microdose for a year. They have not used it since the first year's completion, neither the antidepressants nor the microdose. The list goes on.
So for anyone that thinks a discussion about microdosing is about 'getting high as balls' it's a shame - I was hoping to have an engaging thread with people interested in learning more. This is not an attack. We stand for what we believe, and we believe based on experience so it's all good. I put this out there hoping that if someone has or knows someone suffering from concussion, abi (acquired brain injury - stroke) or tbi (traumatic brain injury - some external trauma) that they would look into this as an option - it's legal in some states and is a recognized form of therapy.
It causes neurogenesis (formation of new neuropathways) and is an excellent medicine for people suffering some sort of neuropathway loss. I've read that it's also being studied for people with various forms of dementia.
If you go to maps.org website you can find tons of information on studies related to the use of psychedelics as a medicine and in fact they are now in human trials (after years of phase1, phase 2, phase 3 testing and approvals) for being recognized as an effective means for people with severe, chronic ptsd.
edit:But re microdosing with supervision it may be worth a shot. Your gates may open just a tiny bit which could allow enough exposure to facilitate growth in a positive direction. I've read about successful treatments for PTSD with psilocybin or LSD, both microdosed.
actually you take your dose and go about your day - remember, the quantity has such a low effect it's imperceptible. It's not what you feel it's what you don't feel... as in you don't feel anxiety and a slew of other symptoms. One injury person I knew would microdose and finally be able to sleep because it would calm her mind. The great thing is because it rewires the brain you actually improve with each microdose.
It's funny, because I've had discussions where people have said to me "I microdosed once and I didn't feel a damn thing"... (facepalm)... yea no sh** sherlock... that's the point.
meeks wrote:In terms of traumatic brain injury and even PTSD the research suggests that mushrooms can help develop new pathways in the brain. A good friend of mine was a Marine in Iraq and I believe for him whenever he was triggered and the PTSD would kick in it seemed that his brain signals would all come from the frontal lobe and he was ready for war as if he were back in Iraq. I don't believe he tried mushrooms but I can see how there were certain patterns that took him years to work through. He is much better but it took a good decade for him not to jump into combat mode over every little trigger.
Together, we can cross the finish line and make MDMA a medicine
Early next year, MAPS will publish the full results of our first of two Phase 3 clinical trials for MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD. Phase 3 is the final stage before seeking FDA approval for a new prescription treatment.
If successful, this treatment could transform the lives of millions of people who live with the impacts of complex trauma.
Well yes, anything organized would probably never happen if everyone go tripping ....Somewhere at a point in time some got to their senses, it was time to build functional societies.... For me it was interesting since I know that the native or first nations people of the Americas (which is one part of my ancestry) use to explore themselves using these plants which they found on the ground right in front of them.
Yet, it seems that at one point in history this was universal probably long before governments, monarchies or religions ever existed.
Testing psychedelics on military personnel has been going on since the 50”s in the US as well as in the UK....There are videos from those early tests on the net to see the test subjects reaction to the drugs... A good friend of mine was a Marine in Iraq and I believe for him whenever he was triggered and the PTSD would kick in it seemed that his brain signals would all come from the frontal lobe and he was ready for war as if he were back in Iraq. I don't believe he tried mushrooms but I can see how there were certain patterns that took him years to work through. He is much better but it took a good decade for him not to jump into combat mode over every little trigger. Today he still has problems, for example hearing fireworks brings him back to Fallujah.
Trick wrote:Even the old Viking berserkers tripped on mushrooms to come out strong while fighting.....those who survived the battles came out wrecked physically as mentally.
Trick wrote:Well yes, anything organized would probably never happen if everyone go tripping ....Somewhere at a point in time some got to their senses, it was time to build functional societies.... For me it was interesting since I know that the native or first nations people of the Americas (which is one part of my ancestry) use to explore themselves using these plants which they found on the ground right in front of them.
Yet, it seems that at one point in history this was universal probably long before governments, monarchies or religions ever existed.
Testing psychedelics on military personnel has been going on since the 50”s in the US as well as in the UK....There are videos from those early tests on the net to see the test subjects reaction to the drugs... A good friend of mine was a Marine in Iraq and I believe for him whenever he was triggered and the PTSD would kick in it seemed that his brain signals would all come from the frontal lobe and he was ready for war as if he were back in Iraq. I don't believe he tried mushrooms but I can see how there were certain patterns that took him years to work through. He is much better but it took a good decade for him not to jump into combat mode over every little trigger. Today he still has problems, for example hearing fireworks brings him back to Fallujah.
Wouldn’t be surprised if soldiers sent to war has been under some microdosing agenda ever since.....and PTSD is an Symptome of have been in war zones while (unknowingly)”on drugs”.... https://unbelievable-facts.com/2014/12/ ... diers.html
Even the old Viking berserkers tripped on mushrooms to come out strong while fighting.....those who survived the battles came out wrecked physically as mentally.
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