Karate is the Japanese Savate

[wayne hansen]

I am not sure if your referring to me there Ian
I did watch the video but am not convinced by the argument
A lot of people think the various high,round and spinning kicks came to Karate via Tong Soo Do and Hwang Gi

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

No, it was just a more general comment really stemming from G's last post about "martial arts" in the West.

As an aside, tang soo do was one of the first arts I did, and they admitted that it came from karate.

[Steve James]

Seems to me that the history of kicks in taekwondo would be relevant.

[GrahamB]

Seems to me that the history of kicks in taekwondo would be relevant.

Watch from 31.30 onwards here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH_SvlHBw5U

[Steve James]

Interesting discussion. I'll look a little more into Tekkyon, just for fun. Anyway, I agree with the idea that people are attached more to the myths of their ma than they should.

[GrahamB]

Interesting discussion. I'll look a little more into Tekkyon, just for fun. Anyway, I agree with the idea that people are attached more to the myths of their ma than they should.

Hell yes they are!

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

Tekkyon is another of those invented traditions--or at least a reverse engineered one.

[yeniseri]

I like the research done by Jesse Enkamp!
He even interviewed one of the modern writers who translated the Bubishi! He even had profiled a kata! fronm Chinese origins that is stated to be an origin into many system of SE Asia. Check him out! Jesse Enkamp, mi gente!