Doc Stier wrote:Fair enough, but why are you guys giving him so much energy and attention then? Just curious why it even matters to anyone what he claims or what he does? It certainly doesn't affect my training in any way whatsoever, and I'm guessing not yours, either. :-\
Doc Stier wrote:Your first point is good, and I totally agree with that reason, but your other points assume that we here are less capable of making the same observations and conclusions that you do, which you probably know isn't necessarily true.
In any case, no worries. Please carry on as you wish. It's all good. :)
Bhassler wrote:1. CMA is not inherently shit, but most practitioners are. This is not necessarily their fault, as that's what they were taught by sub-par teachers. Some of those teachers are well intentioned, others are outright frauds. The frauds count on being able to hide behind false ideas of "wu de" to avoid having their shit questioned publicly, and thereby get to take advantage of more people who don't know better. This perpetuates the cycle of shitty CMA, and is a big contribution to why it's generally considered fake, or religious dance, or whatever.
Bhassler wrote:2. I can't speak for everyone, but my (and some others') issues with Jiang are not because he lost at MMA. They are because his stories don't track, and his displayed skills (in *any* context outside of body conditioning) don't match up with any sort of high level skills in his alleged realms of expertise -- traditional practice, military, street, or sport. Combined with the fact that he's suddenly "emerging" as a "grandmaster" who knows all the super-true uber-secret everythings about martial arts and spiritual guruship now available at a premium price online it all becomes suspect, at best. If all he did was get in a ring and say "this is my practice, this is my experience", then he'd be worthy of respect. It's all the other crap that tells a different tale.
suckinlhbf wrote:We are all human. We live at the MOMENT the same as other humans. Sex is kind of an intuitive behavior. Learning how to exchange, and nurture qi with sex would be more congruous. We can't say the air is polluted so we don't breath.
GrahamB wrote:Who the hell is spending 32k on video games per year!?!?!?
CarstenM wrote:For me, the problem with Jiang Yu Shan is that he displays himself as a unbeatable and enlightened Daoist Master and all this to rip off people who don't know better. Jiang is very athletic, he has a decent iron palm that is all true and admirable (if you are into such things), but other than that he is a rip-off!
His latest course costs 2479$ but when you check it's content it's just the basic 8 Yiquan postures (which he claims are for building muscle) and microcosmic orbit, all of this is free on youtube, taught by people much more qualified.
And in the comments of the accompanying video for this course
His disciple (the blond from the video) tells us the costs for becoming Jiang's direct student which is 32k:
This tells us everything!
The fact that Jiang (himself a striker) gets knocked out by a unknown grappler, without Jiang showing any specifics of the style he claims to have mastered is just another proof that he is not what he claims to be.
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