Bao wrote: They Chinese are all very much fed up with all of the fabricated lies from the West about Xinjiang.
GrahamB wrote:The BBC's Beijing correspondent John Sudworth has left China and moved to Taiwan following pressure and threats from the Chinese authorities.
Xinjiang's population increased by 13.9% from 2010 to 2018 to 24.8 million, and the Uighur population increased by 25% to 12.7, with a much higher rate than the general birthrate in China.
GrahamB wrote:"Nigel Adams, the Asia minister, admitted there was credible evidence of widespread use of forced labour, internment camps, and the targeting of ethnic groups.
"...impossible to clearly determine whether a labor- intensive manufacturing product in Xinjiang will be made with labor from former detainees or not. "
A series of spreadsheets titled “poverty alleviation groups” that were produced by local government authorities from Asilanbage Township in Yarkand (Shache) County, Kashgar Prefecture, list the employment situation of thousands of rural Uyghur residents....
...Of the 43 persons with a listed monthly wage, about two thirds (28) only earned 800 RMB per month, 7 were shown to earn 1,000 RMB, and 9 earned 2,600 RMB or more. The average wage was only 1,228 RMB. In contrast, public documents suggest that such workers can earn between 1,500 and 3,500 RMB per month.
Interestingly, the average age of those with a wage of 1,000 RMB and less was much higher than that of those with a wage over 1,000 RMB (43 versus 26 years). ... The two persons listed as working in a “VTIC satellite factory” had average monthly earnings of 667 and 1,000 RMB respectively."
... It is unclear whether this form of employment is in fact much more voluntary than that of VTIC graduates.
Before long, it will be up to Chinese companies, and to China as a whole nation, to prove to other countries that their exported products do not involve any form of coerced ethnic minority labor. ... Meanwhile, western and other foreign companies must fully divest their supply chains not only from Xinjiang, but also from Chinese companies with significant operations in that region.
Steve James wrote:Is there anything that would convince you?
Steve James wrote:If there's no way to convince you otherwise, why argue?
Steve James wrote:. I've read your rebuttals.
Bao wrote:Thanks Michael. Happy to see someone making sense.
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