edededed wrote:The teacher dude did try to keep his calm for as long as he could...
AJG wrote:I get the whole real world violence is unpleasant. What I was thinking was to what extent has martial arts (in particular CMA) evolved to look aesthetically pleasing at the expense of practicality. All these fine motor movements that go out the window the moment the shit hits the fan.
the simplest example in this clip is the preference to swing a punch versus a nice looking straight punch. and yet i'll bet that straight punch was trained a lot.
GrahamB wrote:To generalise: As soon as a martial arts style gets a name it becomes a brand. Brands exist to make money or generate social credit. To succeed it has to be different to other brands, so we have artificial stylists differences “in Xingyi we do this…” “in wing chun we do this….”. The more unique and different we can make it the stronger the brand.
Then when reality comes knocking we do something different. Reality does not care about brands. Only humans do.
AJG wrote:
Its not lost on me that when the altercation started the Wing Chun was nowhere to be seen. The idea that that we might be trying to install movement the body just doesn't see as natural is worthy of deep thought no matter the amount of repetition. That applies to all martial arts not just this one.
In China, Fairbairn studied and became proficient in Baguazhang under the instruction of Tsai Ching Tung (Cui Zhendong, Bagua student of Yin Fu), who was employed at the Imperial Palace, Beijing, as the instructor to the Retainers of the late Empress Dowager.
Fairbairn later made a dedication in his book
All In Fighting/The Fairbairn Method (1942) to Cui Zhendong calling him a man of "terrifying prowess."
AJG wrote:Its not lost on me that when the altercation started the Wing Chun was nowhere to be seen. The idea that that we might be trying to install movement the body just doesn't see as natural is worthy of deep thought no matter the amount of repetition. That applies to all martial arts not just this one.
AJG wrote:I get the whole real world violence is unpleasant. What I was thinking was to what extent has martial arts (in particular CMA) evolved to look aesthetically pleasing at the expense of practicality. All these fine motor movements that go out the window the moment the shit hits the fan.
the simplest example in this clip is the preference to swing a punch versus a nice looking straight punch. and yet i'll bet that straight punch was trained a lot.
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