Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Might make sense if the students were actually trying to throw the maestro. They are not.
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Might make sense if the students were actually trying to throw the maestro. They are not.
dspyrido wrote:Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Might make sense if the students were actually trying to throw the maestro. They are not.
Spot on. I guess Ramsey has never heard of a suplex.
vadaga wrote:I think that the bearhugging guy should have either cleared his head or rolled through as demonstrated in the end of the vid here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gmkKaZPbUY
marvin8 wrote:dspyrido wrote:Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Might make sense if the students were actually trying to throw the maestro. They are not.
Spot on. I guess Ramsey has never heard of a suplex.
A suplex (or ura nage in judo) is when one throws an opponent backwards, behind them. In Ramsey's video, the guy is throwing Lucas forwards. Using your argument/logic, "I guess you never heard of a suplex?"
dspyrido wrote:marvin8 wrote:dspyrido wrote:Spot on. I guess Ramsey has never heard of a suplex.
A suplex (or ura nage in judo) is when one throws an opponent backwards, behind them. In Ramsey's video, the guy is throwing Lucas forwards. Using your argument/logic, "I guess you never heard of a suplex?"
Dude 1 was on the back & had his arms around his chest so he decides to ... pick him up and go for a walk?
Nope - drop weight, get waist, arch back.
marvin8 wrote:Nope. Dude 1 was chest to chest with Lukas & had his arms around his back (a common position to end up in), when "he decides to ... pick him up and go for a walk." How do you propose he does a suplex, while they are chest to chest?
Regardless, how does that mean "Ramsey has never heard of a suplex?" which appears to be an illogical, ad hominem, straw person argument. A more relevant question, do you believe (argue) that it is not possible to float and counter an opponent? If so, why?
dspyrido wrote:Nope - drop weight, get waist, arch back. ...
As I said "drop weight".
marvin8 wrote:A more relevant question, do you believe (argue) that it is not possible to float and counter an opponent? If so, why?
marvin8 wrote:Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Might make sense if the students were actually trying to throw the maestro. They are not.
I felt similar, until Ramsey mentioned it. Looking closer at Mifune and Lucas (judoka) sparring at the UFC PI in Shanghai, they both showed some skill (e.g., listening, positioning, timing).
As the opponent commits his forward momentum and is on one leg, Lucas listens, positions and counters:
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