Taste of Death wrote:It may not always look like xing yi but the concepts are still there in Mike Patterson's students' fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CToWo0Nfqpw
windwalker wrote:Taste of Death wrote:It may not always look like xing yi but the concepts are still there in Mike Patterson's students' fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CToWo0Nfqpw
Why, why doesn't it look like what is practiced ? ...
Why is it, in almost all cases with those claiming to represent distinctive styles of CMA
when in use it has to be be explained
"it may not always look like xing yi"
Never seems to be applied with those labeled as boxers or BJJ stylist based on what is seen.
marvin8 wrote:Opponent will jab/cross and retract their punches. So, grabbing punches is "not realistic."
Doc Stier wrote:I don't perceive any way that a so-called Xingyiquan Combat Tournament can effectively be held using those rules and that type of competition equipment. The use of the gloves alone would severely impede or prevent the effective application of most standard defensive techniques seen in all traditional Xingyiquan styles, imo, especially in regard to classical close quarters fighting techniques.
Thus, as a result, even the offensive counterstrike techniques, which usually accompany these defensive methods as finishing moves, will inevitably be replaced by basic punching methods more akin to those employed in Western Boxing, Muay Thai, and their competition oriented derivatives like modern kickboxing.
marvin8 wrote:.
One reason is, with open rules, competitors will choose to retract their punches, not bridge nor block and evade for defense (e.g., yield):
Opponent will jab/cross and retract their punches. So, grabbing punches is "not realistic."
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