MiaoZhen wrote:If you are interested in Taiji and Neigong trained together you should read more about Chen Style Hunyuan Taijiquan. Feng Zhiqiang was a student of Chen Fa Ke as well as a student of Hu Yaozhen. Feng basically integrated both the Neigong he learned from Hu with the Taiji he learned from Chen.
Rhen wrote:Hu had the first Qigong clinic in Beijing, taught Wuji acupuncture and martial arts.
Doc Stier wrote:Rhen wrote:Hu had the first Qigong clinic in Beijing, taught Wuji acupuncture and martial arts.
What is Wuji acupuncture?
wuchan wrote:The Jinshan Pai mentioned in the OP is a lineage of Daoist neigong/internal alchemy that is an offshoot of the Longmen. It's not "taiji neigong" per se, although some serious students in Wang Yennien's Yangjia Michuan lineage practice it--but it's not a part of the taiji system itself, not claimed to have anything to do with the Yang family, etc. Just a Daoist lineage that some martial artists also happened to be a part of. As far as I'm aware Cheng Manching studied tuishou with Zhang Qinlin and was never initiated into the Jinshan Pai.
robert wrote:Taijiquan is a type of daoyin and daoyin is neigong. If your taijiquan has the correct body mechanics you're also doing daoyin. If you do taijiquan correctly you don't need what's shown in Ray's videos. In the 3rd video Ray says there are different ways to do this. He doesn't mention daoyin or taijiquan which seem much easier to me, but you need a good instructor. You don't need all the breathing techniques.
Here is a video of CXW going through a silk reeling exercise. At 7:27 he discusses how qi circulates through the body - 1 qi from fingers go to waist, side. 2 Continue to dantian. 3 From behind to your back. 4 From back to shoulder, elbow, fingers.
In 3 hour workshops he went into more detail. Once you learn how to do this things like the microcosmic orbit are fairly trivial. With taijiquan it usually takes years of training to learn to circulate the qi.
https://youtu.be/zc8FgM7Q3r4?t=445
When we talk about taijiquan today, the highest form, when it reaches the ultimate it reaches here, then, from that point on the person can use any part of their body, when his mind is at a certain place the qi just follows.
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