LaoDan wrote:BruceP wrote:And your commentary on trump says more about your own ethical consistency than it does his.
Republicans tended to lose my confidence in them when my state’s legislators passed a law requiring only “historical data” be used in planning/reviewing/regulating construction projects, negating any considerations of climate change. In my opinion they essentially legislated that our government could NOT rely on the latest scientific information and modeling, and HAD to rely only on outdated information! Talk about pandering to ignorance! They went on about “proof” and “opinion” and “elitism” and “brainwashing” and “censorship” and “authoritarianism” and “socialism” and “lack of freedom” etc. in many topics, including the climate “debate,” while ignoring the preponderance of evidence shown by critical scientific inquiry. I only have seen this trend continue, and become even more extreme over the years, and be applied to more and more subjects, and be amplified by social media... I do not think that it is a good trend for our country. But you apparently see things differently?
I don't live in the US so I'm totally apolitical when it comes to whatever is going on over there. But because I don't sing along to Orange Man Bad with you, you Assume that I'm in agreement with whatever it is you're opposed to? Black-and-White thinking right there. That's just more of your passive-aggressive BS that you've used in this thread to marginalize those whom you suspect of not understanding the issues while giving a pass to those that actually do demonstrate 'sloppy thinking' because... ? There are only a few people in this thread who are making it 'political', as you mentioned it in your wooden weapons thread where you quote part of something I wrote here as a pretext to your 'question'. You could have just asked your question.
AFA what I wrote about your ethical consistency, it kinda goes hand-in-hand with intellectual honesty. To cite your country's previous administration's policies and use of certain tactics while completely ignoring what has happened prior to the most recent inauguration, and since, is telling in that regard. Not a peep here from any of those making this thread political about the very same things you listed in your rant (see below) which are continuing under the current admin in their handling of the 'covid crisis'.
That you make excuses ("game changers") for sudden shifts and reversals of policies without acknowledging the facts, Re: moving the goalposts, points to either full-on Dunning Kruger, or poli-blindness - by choice? Fauci straight-up admitting to literally moving the goalposts in an interview. CDC quietly changing numbers when caught red-handed manipulating the counts and test thresholds. Just those examples should be enough to validate the concerns of anyone who expresses distrust in the "official information" being fed to the masses.
Passive-aggressive snobs who think that others don't understand the 'science' well enough that they can question it. 'Science' notwithstanding, it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to recognize the difference between moving the goalposts and adjusting courses of action as new understanding comes to light. Even a fool knows when they're being lied to and only a denser fool goes out of their way to defend the lies.
Intellectual Honesty
LaoDan wrote:-the insistence that they are the smartest and only they can fix things;
-the vicious attacks (including verbal, but for many also including physical) on opponents;
-the evasiveness (not meaning things the way they are taken, just joking, being misunderstood…);
-insisting that they are never wrong, and “doubling down” whenever they are questioned;
-lack of empathy, and difficulty of reflection on things, and lack of open-mindedness; black and white thinking;
-bullying;
Haven't seen any of that from team blue in the past 7 months, right? nope...