nicklinjm wrote:By CMC's own account he studied with YCF for 7 years, i.e. starting in 1929.
In that case ZMQ contradicts himself. Do you have a reference for that?
nicklinjm wrote:By CMC's own account he studied with YCF for 7 years, i.e. starting in 1929.
robert wrote:nicklinjm wrote:By CMC's own account he studied with YCF for 7 years, i.e. starting in 1929.
In that case ZMQ contradicts himself. Do you have a reference for that?
He put his heart and soul into studying the classics and the sages, and for 3 years his feet never left the school's door. He took no summer vacations or vacations of any kind.
Professor Cheng once commented to me, “Tam, during that time of study of Master Ming-shan, I never slept I burned the midnight oil for three years and no one ever saw me except my teacher, and that was only when I handed in an essay to him.”
co-lee wrote:In the 13 Treatises, Zheng says he "followed Yang Cheng Fu for 7 years".
co-lee wrote:(edit to add: I should clarify that, joking aside, I'm in the CMC line and respect his skills and talent. I just have to roll my eyes at the obvious incompatible dates...)
robert wrote:co-lee wrote:In the 13 Treatises, Zheng says he "followed Yang Cheng Fu for 7 years".
Thanks for that. So he does contradict himself.co-lee wrote:(edit to add: I should clarify that, joking aside, I'm in the CMC line and respect his skills and talent. I just have to roll my eyes at the obvious incompatible dates...)
I started in the ZMQ lineage, but moved on after a couple years. There's video of ZMQ so people can see how he moved. He clearly used jin. I like his writings; he clearly writes from experience, for the most part. How good he is doesn't really say anything about how long he studied with YCF. I've always seen contradictory information regarding how long he studied with YCF, now I know why - it comes from ZMQ himself.
oragami_itto wrote:I've taken everything from both of them with a grain of salt after their book relayed a conversation between YCF and YLC.
Pennykid wrote:I've read many times that CMC used the straight wrists as well as the parallel stepping in Repulse Monkey because they were better for qi flow.
2. “Sink the shoulders, drop the elbows, and ‘sit the
wrist.’” This means that the shoulders should neither be
shrugged nor collapsed. The elbows should not be raised
nor squeezed. If they behave naturally, they will auto-
matically sink. To “sit the wrist” is the most difficult of
the three, as it requires that the veins and tendons do
not appear on the back of the hand in order to be cor-
rect. This is traditionally called “beautiful lady’s hand.”
The fingers are neither closed nor open, and neither bent
nor straight. One seeks the opened from the closed and
the straight from the curved. The ch’i must pass through
the lao kung point (Pericardium 8) in the palm before it
can reach the tips of the fingers.
wayne hansen wrote:I don’t know about the sword photo
The other photo is quite old and he does the form quite differently to later photos
I prefer the younger ones
wayne hansen wrote:Better to follow teachers who saw and learnt from him on many days over extended time
I trusted my teachers because they could tell me why and then apply it
If Cheng didn’t have it they would not have it
They did
wayne hansen wrote:I don’t know about the sword photo
GrahamB wrote:I just find it really bizarre that anybody would take Cheng's Tai Chi as some sort of standard for Tai Chi to then argue about...?
But don't mind me - carry on
oragami_itto wrote:GrahamB wrote:I just find it really bizarre that anybody would take Cheng's Tai Chi as some sort of standard for Tai Chi to then argue about...?
But don't mind me - carry on
I mean, say what you like about the quality of his system, but you can't deny he had the single most impactful influence on Taijiquan in the United States (at least).
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