Quigga wrote: Anything you want to write coming from your own feather?
Rhen wrote:Quigga wrote: Anything you want to write coming from your own feather?
i said it earlier in the thread:
"In reality there is no dan tien, only lower diaphragm breathing.
there is no Du or Ren channel, only the spinal cord (cerebral spinal fluid, motor and sensory nerves) and the esophagus that goes down.
while breathing with lower diaphragm can generate heat which is a sign, and generation of saliva which is another sign.
the best sign comes from stillness of body where the mind gets quiet and you lose all sense of self and even having a body."
Rhen wrote:Quigga wrote: Anything you want to write coming from your own feather?
i said it earlier in the thread:
"In reality there is no dan tien, only lower diaphragm breathing.
there is no Du or Ren channel, only the spinal cord (cerebral spinal fluid, motor and sensory nerves) and the esophagus that goes down.
while breathing with lower diaphragm can generate heat which is a sign, and generation of saliva which is another sign.
the best sign comes from stillness of body where the mind gets quiet and you lose all sense of self and even having a body."
If I reduce all of it to the physical, surely I'll get it right.'
everything wrote:If I reduce all of it to the physical, surely I'll get it right.'
To study the physical world, you should try to understand physics and its "laws" which govern the physical world. But it's not that simple...in Newtonian physics, we thought the physical world reduces to particles and waves. Now we know particles (fundamental particles) are actually waves. Basically everything is a wave. As some kind of "physics metaphor", that one seems far more helpful.
Rhen wrote:What do you know about Taiji neigong?
It really seems to be imported from Taoist neigong mainly through the Jin shan pai tradition it seems. Zhang Qilin learned from 3rd patriarch of Jin Shan Pai Zou Yifeng. zhang Qilin later taught it to Cheng Man Ching and Wang Yien-nian who both wrote and taught some students.
Not entirely convinced the major styles of Chen, Yang , Wu, Hao, Sun knew this. Seems to be a later picked up and add. Seem like knowing the forms, weapons, push hands, (the martial stuff) was more important.
Rhen wrote:One thing I've learned about neigong, is not to rely on some of the folks out there if they are not initiated by a Taoist and have met the stages.
Some folks seem to add and take from multiple traditions or not clear on where they learned.
Also there seems to be over emphasis on channels and vessels.
In reality there is no dan tien, only lower diaphragm breathing.
these is no Du or Ren channel, only the spinal cord (cerebral spinal fluid, motor and sensory nerves) and the esophagus that goes down.
while breathing with lower diaphragm can generate heat which is a sign and generation of saliva which is another sign.
the best sign comes from stillness of body where the mind gets quiet and you lose all sense of self and even having a body.
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