yeniseri wrote:1. All CMA has the concept and principle of liu he ba fa (6 combination/8 methods ) within them per application and otherwise
2. What is called liuhebafa today is just another type Wudang inspired putting together of x arts and stringing them like plastic pearls
it contains more useful principles and theory than most IMA schools today.
wayne hansen wrote:Can u tell me what it has that other internals dont
suckinlhbf wrote:it contains more useful principles and theory than most IMA schools today.
Bao,
Use your word - "can't agree really". It depends on how much that IMA school has.
Liuhebafa is guided by its two writings - Five words song, and Liuhebafa song. Five words song is the general principle, and Liuhebafa song is the way to train. As mentioned in the first sentence of Liuhebafa song, it starts with the heart. Getting to know the heart, and work with the heart is a deduction process. To empty the water in the cup to start with, and then practice, practice, and practice.... following the guidance.
Bao wrote:心意本無法, I like this short poem or statement very much. Deep. I don’t know exactly how you interpret this one, but from what I understand, and IMO, it should be a general guidance for all IMA practitioners.
But to reach the formless or methodless you first need a method or a shape. LHBF has its own form and exercises, they have clear methods and they are NOT a mix of the other IMA styles. The LHBF form is not a mix based on an Old Shaolin form mixed with local arts.
oragami_itto wrote:Care to translate?
how you interpret this one
LHBF has its own form and exercises, they have clear methods
Here is what my teachers told me about the history and origins of Liuhebafa.
Wu Yihui and his good friend Wang Xiangzhai both masters in there own arts produced the from and its fighting methods.
Wu Yihui taught the public form openly and Wang Xiangzhai taught its fighting principle in his art Dachengquan and they kept them separate, only very few people knew the truth.
If you look at the content of the form you will see elements of Dachengquan standing and Fa Jing training and also moves from Lu Hong Ba Shi that shouldn’t be there if Liuhebafa is an original art.
There always seems to be a lot of chat about theory and not much about the practical skills, fighting applications and methods in the art.
Any clips would be interesting !!!!
wayne hansen wrote:I thought it went back a lot further than that to a Taoist who.s name slips my memory
He is also credited with creating the Ba Tuan Chin and Tai Chi Ruler
suckinlhbf wrote:. Song Dynasty was the time that some teachers combine Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucius into one. Then, it split again later.
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