Quigga wrote:You too origami_itto
What's itto btw?
This is one reason meditation, qigong, etc is more important than “MA”. If you don’t work on your health what do you defend
汪永泉授楊式太極拳語錄及拳照
Wang Yongquan Writings on Yang Style Tai Chi Chuan
Translated by Richard Man,
http://facebook.com/groups/IMA.LiteraryTradition
(十一)練拳主要是煉神、意、氣
(Eleven) Practicing Martial Art Is About Refining Shen, Yi and Qi
內功是神、意、氣的化合。神、意、氣是結合在一起的,神到、意到、氣到。
練拳主要是煉神、意、氣。
盤架子是神、意、氣的運行。明了這點,才知道應該如何盤架子。
神、意、氣運行走虛。
Neijin (internal gong) is harmonizing Shen, Yi, and Qi (神、意、氣, ‘spirit’, mind intent and Qi). When the Shen, Yi and Qi are harmonized together, when Shen is expressed, so would Yi and Qi.
The main point of practicing martial art is to refine Shen, Yi and Qi.
The form is about moving Shen, Yi, and Qi. You have to understand this point, before you can learn how to do the form.
Shen, Yi and Qi move where it is empty and insubstantial.
養生和技擊的練法,對眼神的要求不同。養生練法要求神內含,蓄而不露;技擊練法要求眼神看 得平遠,有放、有收。不能只放不收。否則要傷均氣。
Practicing for health and fighting are different, and have different requirements for raising your Shen to your eyes.
For health you want to keep the Shen inside, focus inwardly and not showing it; for fighting, your eyes should focus far.
Sometimes focusing, sometimes more reserved. It cannot be only focusing and not bring the focus back. Otherwise, it will harm your Qi.
He let Bill stand beside the pine tree next to the iron fence , about 5 meters awar from him. I was next to Bill, Master Zhang, asked me to put my left hand on bills right chest.
He drew a circle on BILL's chest with one hand, and my left hand felt like it was circled by hot electric current, but I was fine. BILL frowned on the chest. Later, the old man rubbed it for him and said that he would sleep all night. I asked him the next day, and he said it didn't hurt anymore. This is Mr. Zhang's famous emptiness, passing energy from the air.
Tom wrote:origami_itto wrote:
This sort of explains my name
https://www.writeups.org/ogami-itto-lon ... cub-manga/
Except …. the link refers to Ogami Itto, not Origami. I assume there is some unstated ironic play on the folding of paper …
everything wrote:Yes we want more explanations…
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Maybe it’s a different thread, but for the shen and yi topic, neuroscience is finding what areas of the brain are more active or more suppressed during and after meditation.
For example having more control over emotions.
Main point is probably we have different “minds”.
We are controlled by different portions of our brains and CNS.
This is bigger/more important than for a hypothetical true emergency scenario.
For example every day (say in traffic, just boarding a plane, just some silly office situation), people go through fight/flight but have bad self-regulation.
Maybe that escalated to the self defense emergency or maybe it’s just very harmful stress (which needs “self defense”).
This is one reason meditation, qigong, etc is more important than “MA”. If you don’t work on your health what do you defend
everything wrote:haha that is an awesome nickname
i'll have to do more reading on the meditation / brain stuff - feeling super forgetful today.
the brain is too complicated for our brains to try to understand. and when we dream, one part of our brain tricks the other part of our brain to believe that this weird shit is really happening - does that mean we're really stupid, or really smart? - paraphrasing some comedian or scientist.
everything wrote:Great post. Driving analogy makes perfect sense. I think you're saying xin/yi/qi/jin/li/xing should "be as one". I think you're right. Normally here I think we're talking about some really specific aspect of training. In the "Venn diagram" of aspects of IMA, I'm not doing many aspects. I'm mainly doing some qigong as for me, mostly for health, but also since that's a big missing piece relative to everything else - I've done relatively a lot of the other things. Not particularly worried about integrating the pieces for now. If I make progress, I'll get back to the rest. No steering with knee while eating a hot dog for now.
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