Quigga wrote:You may call this a philosophical construct:
Yang Shen Fa = Positive-Light Spirit Nurturing
Or strengthening life itself, the creative force in the universe, supporting evolution... From Grey (yin yang mix) to white (pure yang), eh
Basically warrior-saints, warrior-priest-medics...
Learning what is yin in your body and letting go of it, thus ascending higher and higher. Oh well
The slack of which I speak can only be felt after cultivating coupled power and experiencing a bit of 'noninterference' in meditation. Conceptually, this definition is analogous to the slack of a geartrain. Slack for our purposes is defined as the range between 'softness-weakness' and 'strength-vigor'. This experiential range is subjective and exclusively from interoceptive signals received from the deep core stabilizers. A CIMA term for this overall practice is known as 'Jibengong' or torso methods.
Kelley Graham wrote:Yeah, I'm resurrecting a dead thread. Is the notion of 'slack' that arises from interoceptive inquiry ( Internal Practice ) unique to Neijia? Slack in this context is the result of good structure, not a negative absence of structure.
Relevant excerpt:The slack of which I speak can only be felt after cultivating coupled power and experiencing a bit of 'noninterference' in meditation. Conceptually, this definition is analogous to the slack of a geartrain. Slack for our purposes is defined as the range between 'softness-weakness' and 'strength-vigor'. This experiential range is subjective and exclusively from interoceptive signals received from the deep core stabilizers. A CIMA term for this overall practice is known as 'Jibengong' or torso methods.
Entire post at https://sifuondemand.com/slack
Background post on Interoception and an 'Internal Definition' https://sifuondemand.com/what-internal
The question remains, "Where can we find common language?
Bhassler wrote:The concept is not unique to neijia, or even to martial arts. I've heard it referred to as "neutral"-- where a joint (or person) can move in any direction without resistance or preparation. Relative to joints, it's usually a range where the joint can be moved without resistance, and when a change is perceived, that's defined as the edge of neutral. It's is particular to a given joint/individual/position/orientation, so one person's neutral may vary from another's. It's easier felt than described.
I would think that the term "slack" could carry connotations from other domains (like engineering, in the image you posted) that might cause confusion, but as long as it works for you...
Kelley Graham wrote:Original Mandarin culture no longer exists. Besides, new understanding is discovered and old ideas must be reexamined. Each generation contributes. I am not sentimental when it comes to History. Hard to do anything new, when using the old. New ideas generate new approaches to training. Yada yada. I think we'll probably have to agree to disagree over this.
windwalker wrote:Kelley Graham wrote:Original Mandarin culture no longer exists. Besides, new understanding is discovered and old ideas must be reexamined. Each generation contributes. I am not sentimental when it comes to History. Hard to do anything new, when using the old. New ideas generate new approaches to training. Yada yada. I think we'll probably have to agree to disagree over this.
looks that way,,,
Baring that, it might help to "show" what can be done with this method as "you" describe
that cannot be done using other methods.
All those I work with native Chinese speakers some have practiced for awhile...
They understand the terminology quite well, although working , practicing to make it
real takes a while....
Kelley Graham wrote:To my understanding, anyone, with some depth of knowledge, would see the application of this concept without any further ado. Besides, concepts are not methods. I'm not discussing methods.
Bhassler wrote:
"Neutral" as I described it is applied specifically to the skeleton within the closed system of the body. You can do whatever you want in your own descriptive system, I was just sharing where other people have used another term for the same thing, which was relevant to the question you asked. There's no point in arguing the validity of terms used by other people who aren't here and aren't pushing an agenda.
wayne hansen wrote:Neither hollows or projections
Does that not cover slack
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