salcanzonieri wrote:Well, I wasn't being serious, there are other changes in Yang style that Chen doesn't have.
But they aren't new things, just modifications..
Anyway, to answer you question, no. I have proven that the Yi Lu form already existed before.
Please read my post and see, I even have all the form names in historical order:
https://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29567&sid=0bf304d61ea03e2cebfeb71149c97626
origami_itto wrote:salcanzonieri wrote:Well, I wasn't being serious, there are other changes in Yang style that Chen doesn't have.
But they aren't new things, just modifications..
Anyway, to answer you question, no. I have proven that the Yi Lu form already existed before.
Please read my post and see, I even have all the form names in historical order:
https://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29567&sid=0bf304d61ea03e2cebfeb71149c97626
Okay but that's a list of names written down in 1930. Is that proof of anything?
everything wrote:At the opposite end of the spectrum, what did Sun change from Hao? And why?
Bao wrote:Two things:
(1) In the Chen village, they trained many different styles. Chen family boxing might have been mixed with things as local Shaolin after YCF left. You need to realise that "styles" were not as fixed into systems and specific curriculums as today. So the idea that Chen family style changed earlier or later are equally valid. However...
(2) What I find interesting is that Wu Yuxiang, who went to Chen village in search of YLC teacher (but studied briefly with Chen Qingping) never said anything about that what was taught in the Chen village would be different from what YLC taught. He only said that he got some missing pieces that he didn't get from YLC. But none of the Chen style "Buddhist Shaolin" movements as Buddha Pounds mortar, that YLC presumably should have had taken away, can be find in WYX's Wu style. But still, WYX's form seems to have been derived straight from the Chen small frame. So this suggests that those movements were not found in Chen family boxing taught to YLC and WYX.
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