marvin8 wrote:1) Alex steps left with front foot and circle steps back with right leg, leading (yin) Sean to step forward 2. Alex listens (ting) for Sean to right downward parry and lift front leg (double weight) 3. Alex level changes (na), then shifts weight to the back foot (hua), while issuing (fa) left check hook, before Sean plants his front foot.
2) As I posted and linked to, it is garnered through an understanding of principles, concepts, strategies, skills and (not "only") "progressive experience under pressure."
3) I explained what Pereira did biomechanically and similar IMA skills (via several clips, videos and links) in reply to posts and within the context of the thread. If you disagree, please clarify in your own terms.
4) I posted similar IMA concepts, strategies and skills. And, I posted how they are trained and developed in drills, sparring and high level fights.
5) Sparring helps to develop skills in luring, listening, control, neutralization, attack, distance, timing, positioning, rhythm, etc.
1) Describing this sequence in IMA terms is like running a complicated paragraph through google translate - I get why you're trying to do it, it isn't jibberish, but it isn't as clear as you think it is.
2) Progressive experience under pressure is the most effective and important element of learning complex skills - IMO where TMA fail is in having an ocean of theory and a thimble of practice. I know this is an offensive attitude but Xu Xiaodong said it in much uglier terms - I respect the value of traditional methods, but am resolved that efficacy is best/more often/more easily found through contemporary training methods.
3) I don't disagree, I understand what your aim is, where we have difficulty is that it comes across as "this mma fighter is good because he has good understanding of IMA principles" to which I reply - "why don't a majority of IMA practitioners understand/apply their own principles."
4) Same issue - overlaying IMA concepts onto MMA training is not the same as showing how IMA is effective - Instead show me an IMA school that is training this way, not pretending "good MMA is good IMA." I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying it is not often seen. Luo Dexiu is incredibly skilled, he fought, his early students fought, their training for fighting and their ideology around graduating from recreational to combative practice is not readily established and I do not believe their group actively competes in any such forum in the present day.
5) Yes, it does... that's why I wanted to hear diverse sparring concepts used by people in this forum as tools for isolating these elements for development. Not looking at open sparring videos and fight clips and calling timing, footwork, and position by different names.