nicklinjm wrote:I noticed that in Zhao's version of the form, compared to Shanghai Hao group, he sinks deeper into the stances, moves are more 'obvious', kicks are done fast, and also there is even some fajin near the end.
Care to comment on the differences? Another case of gongfu requirements being toned down by later generations to make it easier to learn over time?
Hao Taiji, also known as Kaihe in my hometown, is the first Taiji style we practiced. Today, we practice the Hao strong for internal strength development along with our Qigong exercises, the Yang Taiji for softness and fluidity, and we have fast and Fajin forms to go with a variety of weapons. While keeping the traditions of this ancient art and the martial aspects, we also are built on friendship, compassion and fun. To be able to protect ourselves from attacks of the mind, spirit and energy are much more likely than any physical attacks.
When the two came to a clearing in the small wood, Li asked Dong to do two repetitions of the taiji form. After watching, Li shook his head and said: “Your postures are too rigid, you need to use intention (yi), not brute force (li). Once you can do that, you will be able to do anything you want.”
He took out a cotton thread from his pocket, and gently chuckled: “Yingjie, can you break this thread?” Dong laughed and said: “I can break even a length of hemp rope; this kind of cotton thread I could break into two pieces in one breath!” Li Baoyu smiled and said: “Is that right? Let’s see, shall we!” So saying, he gave one end of the cotton thread to Dong, and held the other end himself.
Dong jerked the thread hard. Keeping close hold of the thread, Li stretched his arms to follow Dong’s movement; Dong tried yanking upwards, downwards and sideways, but no matter how Dong pulled the cotton thread, Li maintained his hold on the thread and just followed. After what seemed like several minutes of exertion, Dong had not even managed to pull the thread taut, never mind break it.
Dong blushed and said profusely: “Ashamed, Master, I cannot break it. ” With a meaningful look in Dong’s direction, Li said: “It’s not that you don’t have enough strength, but that your gongfu is not refined. Taiji is born of wuji, the mother of yin and yang. When there is movement, the passive and active become distinct; in stillness, they return to being indistinguishable. Neither going too far nor not far enough, comply and bend then engage and extend. [The opponent] is hard while I am soft – this is called yielding.
If he moves fast, I quickly respond, and if his movement is slow, I leisurely follow. Although the changes are endless, the principle is consistent throughout. “Li’s words, quoted from the taiji classics, were a revelation to Dong and deepened his understanding of the essence of taiji.
chinwoo1956 wrote:Does it really matter whether its postures are high or low? or the movements are in the correct order or even how they look in a book ?.
chinwoo1956 wrote:Hi
Just a few comments?.
Surely the art that you practice must be trained according to the theory and methods laid down for its fighting skills.
Does it really matter whether its postures are high or low? or the movements are in the correct order or even how they look in a book ?.
The Hao family 96 form was produced for the book, its not the true form or training methods that are passed down to disciples ( in door students ).
There are many different training skills that you would not know, because they have not been made public.
So don’t worry about your form just the training of your arts boxing theory and nomethods .
origami_itto wrote:Alex Dong posted this link today
Stories of Dong Ying Jie's Hao Style Master Li Baoyu
http://wulinmingshi.com/2021/09/11/stor ... -li-baoyu/Hao Taiji, also known as Kaihe in my hometown, is the first Taiji style we practiced. Today, we practice the Hao strong for internal strength development along with our Qigong exercises, the Yang Taiji for softness and fluidity, and we have fast and Fajin forms to go with a variety of weapons. While keeping the traditions of this ancient art and the martial aspects, we also are built on friendship, compassion and fun. To be able to protect ourselves from attacks of the mind, spirit and energy are much more likely than any physical attacks.
Appledog wrote:origami_itto wrote:Alex Dong posted this link today
Stories of Dong Ying Jie's Hao Style Master Li Baoyu
http://wulinmingshi.com/2021/09/11/stor ... -li-baoyu/Hao Taiji, also known as Kaihe in my hometown, is the first Taiji style we practiced. Today, we practice the Hao strong for internal strength development along with our Qigong exercises, the Yang Taiji for softness and fluidity, and we have fast and Fajin forms to go with a variety of weapons. While keeping the traditions of this ancient art and the martial aspects, we also are built on friendship, compassion and fun. To be able to protect ourselves from attacks of the mind, spirit and energy are much more likely than any physical attacks.
Is it me or is Sun style so similar? I feel that Sun style took me to a new level of internal strength development too. Can't say why... maybe the fresh approach, maybe the newness of it?
origami_itto wrote:Appledog wrote:Is it me or is Sun style so similar? I feel that Sun style took me to a new level of internal strength development too. Can't say why... maybe the fresh approach, maybe the newness of it?
The taijiquan component of Sun style was based on Wu(hao) to the best of my knowledge.
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